Difference b/w Party and Service without Party

[Former Member]

What is the diff b/w Party and Service without Party?

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You have the following options for addressing the sender or receiver of a message:

· Communication Party (party for short)

· Service

The XI message protocol supports the addressing of senders and receivers on two levels: The first level corresponds to a company unit, the second to a technical or semantic unit within a company unit or company. You represent the first addressing level with the Communication Party object, and the second by the Service object.

Depending on the scenario, you can define the sender and receiver of a message very flexibly with these objects. The options are listed in the following table.

Party with assigned services:

You use this type of addressing when configuring collaborative processes in which whole companies communicate with each other.

You then use a communication party to represent each company. A service represents a business or technical entity within a company.

In cross-company processes, the companies involved usually provide a variety of services for communicating with other companies.

See also : Link: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/37/455d6993cd7646ac33674b162ab2a6/frameset.htm

Services without party: You use this type of addressing when configuring processes in which the system landscape is known to you.

The definition of communication parties is not mandatory. This enables you instead to specify the known business systems and integration processes (defined as business system services or integration process services) directly as either the sender or receiver of a message. In this way, you can address individual business systems directly and thus create receiver determinations and interface determinations very easily.

See also : http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/37/455d6993cd7646ac33674b162ab2a6/frameset.htm

[Former Member]

Hi

The matter of Party comes only when there are number of partners included in the environment. Thats usually happens in B2B systems. The services without party usually happens in normal A2A systems; were normal applications handle the message processing between systems and no multiple partners are interested in same data that are been handled.

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[Former Member]

communication party (party for short) represents a larger unit, which is involved in a collaborative process. Using a communication party, you generally address a company within a cross-company process.That means we use party only when we r using B2B communcation.for example communication of two diffrent organization who r having different landscape.

see this

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/81/104bb1fbab254c8644877c7f856bbf/content.htm

[Former Member]

Hi

partys are used for B to B configuration

service without party is used for A 2 A communicaiton

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krishna

[Former Member]

Hi,

A communication party (party for short) represents a larger unit, which is involved in a collaborative process. Using a communication party, you generally address a company within a cross-company process.

You can assign a communication party one or more services to address it as the sender or receiver of messages.

However, to uniquely identify communication parties in cross-company processes, you specify alternative identifiers. Alternative identifiers use globally-valid IDs to ensure the unique identification of companies.

For communication using an IDoc partner of type LS (logical system) you do not need to assign an IDoc partner to an XI party. Such IDoc partners are addressed at service level.

Communication partners, for which alternative identifiers were defined with a business system as agencies, are displayed in the IDoc Partner tab page for the relevant business system (see Business System (Service)).

Refer these links for more details:

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/81/104bb1fbab254c8644877c7f856bbf/content.htm

https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/4f58802d-0a01-0010-e58b-d13...

/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/09/08/b2b-and-the-hype-about-the-party

/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/09/13/wanna-party

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Nithiyanandam

[Former Member]

Hi DHANUNJAY,

Generally in Business to Business scenario we use party to specify different business parties. within a party you define the Business System,Service,Integration Process provided by that specified business party.

And where you are not dealing with any B2B scenario there you can put your Business System,Service etc in service without party.

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[Former Member]

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1.we go for service without party when we are having A2A communication.

A2A means application to application communication, it is used when two systems in same landscape try to communicate with each other. Systems in same landscape means both the systems are belongs to same organization or a company.

Normally in A2A communication sender and receiver is inside one organization and developer have freedom to define communication rules .

refers to link

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/66/58934257a5c96ae10000000a155106/content.htm

2.we go for service withparty when we are having B2B communication

B2B means Business to Business communication .It is used when there is exchange of information between two different Parties or companies or landscape.

When two applications in different companies communicates with each other we call it B2B Communication.

in case of B2B every party has it own rules which must be followed if we want to communicate between different organization.

refers to link

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/ca/efb540efe68631e10000000a1550b0/content.htm

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Kasturika

[Former Member]

Hi,

We use party when ever we are dealing with the B2B scenario's

We use Service with out Party when ever we are dealing with the A2A scenario's

Go through this disscussion and read Bhavesh's reply

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Seshagiri

Edited by: N V Seshagiri on Mar 19, 2008 6:45 AM