Route Stage data in Route determination

[Former Member]

Hello Gurus,

We have scenario where in route defnition is not required. I am using the route just to have transportation implemented so I can use the shipment document.

I cannot maintain the route stage information Service Agent, shipping type, Distance, duration etc as all these are decided on the fly at the time of dispatch based on the weight volume of the material available for dispatch.

I get the message "Route 000001 has no valid legs" when I enter into the shipment, as I have not maintained the complete route information.

We have different phases in Shipment like Planning, Loading Start, Loading End.. could anyone plzzz explain me the use of these phases in shipment processing. Is it mandatory to maintain all these??

rgds,

Pavan P.

[former_member204513 · Accepted solution]

Hi Pavan,

--->The Route stages will be needed based on the configuration of the Shipment document in the IMG

--->With out maintainig the stages in the Route you can get the stages (Legs) in the shipment document based on the confoguration.

--> in your case the shipment document may be configured in such way that route stages should copy from the route.

You asked about these phases in the shipment document

1.Shipment planning It is one of the important activity in the transportation planning based on this we can come to Now

-->Who are the transporters,

-->What are the route and what are the Deliveries vail n the same route.

-->What is the mode if transport....etc

2.Loading start and 3 .Loading end These also IMP activities to calculate total time of loading for the perticuler shippment.

i hope it will help you

Regards,

Murali.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Thanks alot Murali,

Can u tell me where is the configuration which controls, whether to have route stages in shipment or to get them from the actual route.

I have one more doubt on shipment costing.

Is there a way to get the shipment cost estimate for a particular shipment?? In our scenario shipment costing is done based on the shipment type(i.e., truck type) and distance(its per KM rate based on the truck size). Distance is known only transporter generates the freight bill. Is there way to have the shipment cost estimate based on the shipment type and distance you provide in the Shipment header. It shudnt hit any of the GL accounts, just for for statistical purpose to have an estimmate on the total shipment cost...

I will post it as a new question if you want me to....

Regards,

Pavan P.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello Murali,

Any updates on this????

Regards,

Pavan P.

[former_member204513 · Accepted solution]

Hi Pavan,

Go to Transportation in the IMG there you go to Detail screen of the shipment type, in the detail screen of the shipment type there are fields called Adopt Route and Determine legs based on these fileds the legs (stages) will be dtermined in the shipment document.

Go through this link it is having details about automatic leg determination and manual stages creation in the shipment document.

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/d5/2285347860ea35e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm

For One more doubt.

You fallow these steps

-->You create condition table with the fields Shipment type you can get the shipment cost based on the shipment type.

I-->n the condition type you select calculation.type as 'R' Distence dependent assign the access sequence.

-->You Maintain the condition record for that in TK11.

-->Maintain pricing procedure and determine the procedure in the IMG.

You can get the simulation of the shipping cost at order level with out hitting the G/L account.Based on this you can select cheaper one.

Shipment Cost Information in the Order

As the shipment costs can make up a large proportion of the total cost of a product it is important and therefore recommended that you have a rough idea of the shipment costs when the order is created. As in normal situations no deliveries, shipments or shipment cost documents exist at this point, simulated versions of these can be "created" in the background to enable you to calculate shipment costs on the basis of these documents.

This means that you can estimate shipment costs. When you make the appropriate setting it is also possible to implement several calculations at the same time, in order, for example, to determine whether transport by lorry or by train would be cheaper or how much more it would cost to send by express delivery rather than by standard transport.

Integration

Shipment cost information is called up in SD order processing but uses the transportation and shipment cost processing functions.

Prerequisites

Shipment cost information in the order can only be used if the control parameters and master data for transportation and shipment cost processing have been maintained.

Features

To calculate shipment costs in the order you can define profiles for shipment cost information. The profile for shipment cost information contains default values for shipment cost information in the order, for example, the transportation planning point, transportation type and the shipment pricing procedure. The profile for shipment cost information is assigned to a sales document type (when defining the sales document types in Customizing for Sales and Distribution). If you do not want to carry out comparisons between the calculation methods, but just want to receive an estimated value for the shipment costs, then use the details from the profile for shipment cost information (transportation planning point, transport type, pricing procedure) and the data from the order (forwarding agent, route) for calculating shipment costs and the related simulated creation of transports.

-->If you do not assign a profile to the sales document type, you can also enter the transportation planning point, shipment type and service agent in the order.

To carry out a comparison of different calculation methods, you can assign one or more shipment planning profiles to a profile for shipment cost information. This planning profile is used to create shipments in collective processing, in order to store specific selection variants and data, which should always be used, in the memory. A planning profile determines how deliveries should be put together with shipments and which data should be put in the shipment documents. You can assign various planning profiles to the profile for shipment cost information, in order, for example, to compare whether it is cheaper to transport by train or by lorry. It is also possible to assign a planning profile for creating transportation chains.

If you begin the calculation of shipment costs in the sales document, the data that is used to simulate the putting together of the two types of transportation, is the data which is saved in the order and in the shipment costs profile, which is assigned to the corresponding sales document type. If the planning profile is assigned to the shipment cost type, this data is also used for the parallel calculation of shipment costs, so that it is possible to compare different transportation options.

Calling up Shipment Cost Information in the Order

Procedure

Choose Logistics ® Sales and distribution ® Sales.

Choose Order ® Create.

Enter all the data from your order and save the document.

Call up the document again by choosing Order ® Change.

In the order, choose Details ® Shipment cost information.

You reach the screen where the planning profiles are listed. In the first line, you always have the planning profile . In this line you see the default values from the shipment cost profile that is assigned to the respective sales document type.

If you have not assigned a shipment cost profile to the sales document type, now enter the missing data for Transportation planning point, shipment type, and service provider.

If you have assigned a shipment cost profile to the sales document type, and there are shipment planning profiles assigned to this shipment cost profile, then the system will list all the shipment planning profiles that are assigned to the shipment cost profile.

Choose Execute.

Result

In the column Net value, you see the values calculated by the system. If several planning profiles are assigned, you can have the system make comparisons. In the log, you can display the details of the simulated shipments. If you have problems with the calculations, you can check the reasons listed on the log.

I hope it will help you

Regards,

Murali.

[lakshmikanthc2 · Accepted solution]

Can i have your contact number please,

I have few problems in my projrect. The project is transportation module.

It is very critical situation in my job.

With regards

Lakki