Difference between Condition class and Condition Category

[Former Member]

Hi all

I have certain questions

wat is the difference between condition class and condition category?

wat is product proposal?

wat is a graduated to scale? Is there any real time scenario?

thankx

Kiran Kumar B

[Former Member]

wat is the difference between condition class and condition category?

The condition category defines how a condition (for example, charge or interest) is calculated. Condition categories are the central element of financial conditions, which determine the basic functions of the conditions that are based upon them.

wat is product proposal?

the other name is item proposal. where you track the previous sales order history of a customer and can propose him the items to be purchased. this is a bit opposite to cross selling where we propose items based on the material being purchased.

wat is a graduated to scale? Is there any real time scenario?

it is just ot provide the customer a better price or disc on more purchase. take example of any bulk sale you will find, that as the qty of purchase increases the disc is increased or the other way to read it is the price coming down.

regards

sadhu kishore

[Former Member]

Hi Kiran,

Welcome to SDN.

1) condition class is the grouping of the condition types, also it can be used to indicate whether the condition types values can be redetermined in billing which depending upon the pricing type indicator in copying control settings.

But the condition category is used to categorise the condition types according to the predefined categories.

2) Product proposal is the proposal of items in the sales order automatically, while entering the sold to party in the sales order.

The proposal depend upon the criterias like order history, item proposal, Listing & exclusion, Customer material info record and other sources.

3) Graduated to scale type can be understood by the following scenario.

Ex:

From 1-10 = Rs 100

From 10 -20 = Rs 70

From 30-50 = Rs 50

If u order the 50 qty of material, the price will be calculated follows

For the first 10 qty , it will take Rs 100

For the another 10 qty, It will take Rs 70

For the remaining 30 qty It will take Rs 50

The total value it will sum up & it will say 220,

Also, please refer the following link.

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/de/7a8534c960a134e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm

Also, u can take an example of income tax calculation.

Hope it is useful,

Reward points if useful.

Regards

Kaleeswaran

[Former Member]

Condition class specifies preliminarily structure of Condition type that allows you to control each condition differently...Ex: Taxes, defines that the taxes in the document must be recalculated if the country of a ship to party changes...

Condition type specifies how the system calumniates the condition amount of a condition type.. Ex; the system can calculates the price based on quantity or weight or volume etc..

Item Proposal or Product proposal:

"Item proposal is same as product proposal & SAP uses the two terms interchangeably.

"An item proposal is a list of materials and order quantities that can be copied into the sales order. Items can also be selected from a list and copied into a sales order."

1) Use transaction [VOV8] to configure the document type ("MS" for product proposal).

2) Use transaction [VA51] to create a proposal.

3) Enter the item proposal on the sales area data (sales tab) of the customer master record.

4) In [VA01] to create a sales order, Select Edit & propose items."

Refer sdn link for more details

You can maintain condition records with graduated scales. Using a graduated scale allows you to price an item for each level of a pricing scale. By comparison, when you use normal scales, the system determines one price depending, for example, on the item quantity; the same price then applies to each unit of the item. With graduated scales, the result is that multiples prices can appear in the pricing screen for an individual item.

The use of graduated scales is controlled in Customizing for SD. The scale type is entered for the definition of a condition type. The standard version of the SAP System includes condition type PR02 (Price with graduated scale). Depending on the requirements of your business processes, you can modify existing condition types or create new ones that specify graduated prices or discounts.

Note:Graduated scales are used in prices, discounts and surcharges. However you cannot used graduated scales for group conditions.

http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_02/helpdata/en/28/53584c48be11d385ed0000e81ddea0/frameset.htm

[former_member204513]

HI Kiran,

Go through this it will give some idea

1. Condition class

Condition class is a grouping that allows you control each condition type differently.

For example, the condition type "taxes" defines that the taxes in a document must be recalculated if the country of the ship-to party changes.

2.Condition Category

A classification of conditions according to predefined criteria.

These categories include packaging costs, delivery costs, output taxes and discounts. The classification of conditions by condition categories can be used for analysis.

3.Product Proposal

Use

A product proposal is a list of products for a specific customer that is automatically proposed during sales document processing. You can determine yourself which materials should be displayed as product proposals in the sales document. You can also specify the sequence in which the materials are to be displayed in the product proposal.

During sales document processing, the system displays a product proposal in the item overview, according to the customer and business transaction. It displays the material number, material description and the historical order quantities in the sales unit last used. To use them again, you can just copy them.

The system does not run the standard checks (pricing, availability, incompleteness, material determination, free goods determination, and so on) until you enter the order quantities.

The product proposal acts both as an entry aid and also an aid to sales support and promotions. It is particularly useful tool in the telephone sales area. During sales document processing the materials, that are particularly relevant for a particular customer, are displayed to the processor. This enables them to provide appropriate advice to the customer quickly and easily. You can use the sales document history to analyze the customer's purchasing habits and recognize straightaway if their behavior changes, for when instance when they suddenly stop ordering a product.

The product proposal differs from cross selling in that it is dependent on the customer and sales area, and is therefore displayed in the sales document as soon as you have entered a customer. Cross selling, on the other hand, is triggered by the material. In other words, the system proposes cross-selling materials according to the material or a characteristic of the material you have entered.

Prerequisites

You must make the following settings in Customizing:

Define the customer pricing procedure for the product proposal

Define the document pricing procedure for the product proposal

Assign the document pricing procedure for the product proposal to sales document types

Maintain the table of origin for the product proposal

Define the procedure for the product proposal and specify the access sequences

Maintain procedure determination (in background) for the product proposal

Maintain procedure determination (online) for the product proposal

You can find these settings in Customizing for Sales and Distribution under Basic Functions. For more detailed information about these settings, see the Implementation Guide for the Product Proposal.

Features

You can determine the product proposal from different data sources:

Order history

Listed materials

Excluded materials

Item proposal

Customer/material info records

Customer-specific data sources

For the product proposal you can combine materials from other data sources: For example, you could combine the total of all materials in the last n-sales orders with all materials listed for the customer, plus all materials in certain item proposals, but not including those specified in the exclusion. You can then determine the sequence in which they appear yourself.

You can access the data sources either online, in background processing, or using a combination of both. It is also possible to have a combination of both access techniques. If you want to access various different data sources, we recommend that you use background processing, in order to keep the system load as low as possible while working online.

Working with the Product Proposal in the Sales Document

As soon as you have entered a sold-to party in the sales document, the system calls up the function module for determining the product proposal and runs the accesses according to the online product proposal procedure.

All materials that it finds for the product proposal are automatically displayed as proposal items in the sales document.

None of the normal checks at item level, such as the availability check and pricing, are carried out for the materials included as product proposals. These checks are only carried out when you have given the material an order quantity and an item number is assigned.

If you have entered the order history as a data source in Customizing, the system also displays the historic quantities for each material.

In standard system the fields with historic quantities are displayed at the end of the table. When working with the product proposal, SAP recommends placing the field with historic quantities, for example behind the field Order quantity.

The checks are only carried out (for example, pricing, availability check) when you enter the order quantities for a material from the product proposal. The item then receives an item number.

The Source field shows which data source was used to determine the product proposal for each item (for example, O = order history). If a material is determined from several sources (such as the listing and order history), the system displays the first data source used to determine the material, according to the access sequence defined in Customizing.

You can use Product proposal active <-> inactive pushbutton to hide or display materials from the product proposal. This only applies to items where no quantities have been entered.

When the order history is the source of the product proposal, you can use the Copy IP quantity pushbutton to copy the quantities from the first column with the most up-to-date information (usually the last order) as an order quantity.

Constraints

The system does not generate a product proposal when you use:

Batch input

Incoming IDocs

BAPIs

Change/display sales document

Create sales document with reference

I hope this will help you

Regards,

Murali.

[Former Member]

Dear Kiran,

Condition Class is grouping that allows you to control each condition type differently.

For example, the condition type "taxes" defines that the taxes in a document must be recalculated if the country of the ship-to party changes.

Condition Category is classification of conditions according to pre-defined categories (for example, all conditions that relate to freight costs).

Regards

MBS