internal order

[Former Member]

SAP expert:- good morning

1. If what cases order is real is the real order in Two i.e Order and Cost center(generally order is the real cost center is stastical, OR cost center is the real orerder is the stastical) But some cases orer is two situations REAL order. what that situation.

2. WHAT IS THE REAL OBJECT/STASTICAL OBJECT or REAL ORDER AND STASTICAL ORDER BOTH ARE THE SAME ONE.

[Former Member]

Maybe, in brief, you can understand it this way, cost and overhead can only be gathered by one cost object, if two cost objects exist in assignment, the second one is treated as statistical.

[Former Member]

<b>Following are some of the examples:</b>You enter costs of 100 USD for statistical order 40010. The order also stores the posting to cost center 2330. Cost center 2330 is assigned to profit center P100.

Because this is a statistical order, the cost center is the true account assignment object for this posting. The system also posts the costs statistically to the order and to the profit center.

The system records costs of 100 USD on cost center 2330 and on the order 40020. Cost center 2330 is assigned to profit center P100.

Orders and cost centers are true Controlling objects. The system therefore posts the costs as true costs to the order and as statistical costs to the cost center. In addition, the system posts the costs statistically to the profit center.

You enter revenues of 200 USD on cost center 2330. Cost center 2330 is assigned to profit center P100.

As you cannot make true revenue postings to a cost center, the SAP system derives a summarized reconciliation object as the true account assignment object. The system also makes a statistical posting of the costs to the cost center, and to the profit center.

[Former Member]

hi

internal order is a cost object to monitor cost of a time restricted job. Internal order carries cost when it is created as a Real object. The meaning of Real object is that it carries cost and has to be settled at the month end to other receiver objects like cost center. Internal order can also be statistical. That means it is purely for information. It does not carry cost and as such no settlement is required at the month end. Here the real object is the cost center to which the cost is posted and internal order is additionally used for information purpose.  

real object and real order both are same. real object is used for settlement where as statistical order or statistical object is used for information purpose only.

rgds

sree

[Former Member]

The following explains the true and statistical objects in controlling:

For postings in external accounting that use a cost element as the account, you need to use a special account assignment logic. This enables the SAP system to ensure that data is reconcilable with all the relevant application components. These rules for the account assignment logic always apply for postings in internal accounting (Controlling).

Account assignment distinguishes between true and statistical Controlling objects.

True Controlling Objects

Cost centers (for account assignment of costs)

Orders (true)

Projects (true)

Networks

Make-to-order sales orders

Cost objects

Profitability segments

Real estate objects

Business Processes

You can use true Controlling objects as senders or receivers.

Statistical Controlling Objects

Cost centers (for account assignment of revenues)

Cost centers, if a true account assignment object already exists

Statistical internal orders

Statistical projects

Profit centers

You can indicate internal orders and projects in each master record as statistical.

You can also specify Statistical Controlling objects as account assignment objects in addition to true Controlling objects. You cannot allocate costs on statistical Controlling objects to other objects. Account assignments are for information purposes only. You can make statistical assignments to any number of Controlling objects.

Features

Note the following rules for account assignments:

You need to specify a true Controlling object in each posting row

You cannot assign to a statistical project without specifying a true Controlling object.

In each posting row, you can specify up to three more statistical Controlling objects, as well as the true Controlling object.

You can make a true assignment of costs to a cost center and to a statistical order and a statistical project.

You cannot assign to more than Controlling object of the same type in one posting row.

You cannot make a posting to a true order and a true project.

The only exception to this rule is that you can assign to a cost center and one other true Controlling object. In this case, the posting is true for the additional Controlling object and statistical for the cost center.

You cannot specify the same Controlling object as being true and statistical in the same posting row.

You cannot post to an order and a statistical order in the same posting row.

You can only make postings to profit centers in addition to true Controlling objects.

This means that costs and revenues are only posted statistically to profit centers. Profit centers are derived from true Controlling objects.

When you enter a profit center, this must match up with the profit center that is assigned from the Controlling object.

You need to create P&L accounts as a cost element if you wish to post to them and a Controlling object.

You can make true revenue postings to the following:

A profitability segment

A make-to-order sales order

A project with revenues

An order with revenues

A real estate object

You can only post revenues statistically to cost centers and profit centers.

If you specify a cost center or a profit center for a revenue posting, the system treats the object as a statistical Controlling object. This means that you must also specify a true Controlling object to which the revenues are posted.

The SAP system can automatically derive such an object if account-based Profitability Analysis is not active. The system logs the posting under the "Reconciliation object" object type. The reconciliation object is a summarized profitability segment with the characteristics "Company code", "Business area", "Plant", and "Profit center".

The system also updates a reconciliation object by cost element for postings to a profitability segment with costing-based Profitability Analysis.

The system does not post to reconciliation objects if you specify an additional Controlling object on which true revenue postings can be made.

If you use account-based Profitability Analysis, you cannot assign revenue postings only to cost centers or profit centers. In this case, you need to save a fixed account assignment for each revenue type during automatic account assignment. For more information, see the Implementation Guide (IMG) for Cost Center Accounting under Actual Postings ® Manual Actual Postings ® Maintaining automatic account assignments.