IDOC

[Former Member]

Whats the Exact Difference between an IDOC Type and Message type?

I have placed this question in ABAP forum, but not getting the proper answer, so please help me.

Thanks.

[justin_santhanam · Accepted solution]

Pete,

Please see the below description

Source : http://searchsap.techtarget.com/expert/KnowledgebaseAnswer/0,289625,sid21_gci1230025,00.html

<i>IDocs are created when message types and (object) methods are distributed. The message type is the semantic information which identifies the usage of business data. The IDoc type defines the syntactical format in which the data for a specific business process is transferred.</i>

Source: https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/abap/ale,IDOC&;

<i>Message type gives the meaning of the IDOC and IDOC type gives the structure of an IDOC.</i>

Hope it clears!!!

Best regards,

raj.

[Former Member]

And IDoc is just a bundle of a Data, and Message type in one.

[Former Member]

Paul, do you want to say an Idoc Type contains many Data Structures and Message type gives the Identity what that Idoc currently talks about?

[Former Member]

that is correct. Message type says what type of data IDOC contains

Sreeram Reddy

[Former Member]

Would you please give a good example for me? Any good documents on IDOC

pete123_xi_xi@yahoo.com

Thanks.

[Former Member]

Here you go

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/22/042578488911d189490000e829fbbd/frameset.htm

it has everyting about ALE/BAPI/IDOC/RFC.

Thanx

Ahmad

[Former Member]

- Basic Idoc Type: Basic Idoc type defines the structure and format of the business document

that is to be exchanged between two systems. Basic Idoc type can refer to an SAP provided

basic IDOC type or a customer developed basic IDOC type.

- A basic IDOC type has the following characteristics:

Name : A basic Idoc type can be assigned upto a thirty character name.

List of permitted segments: The segments make up the IDOC structure.

Hierarchy of segments : The hierarchy of segments specifies the physical sequence and

any parent - child relationship in the segments.

Mandatory Vs Optional Segments : When used in the IDOC type, each segment has

an attribute that defines whether the segment is option or mandatory.

Minimum/Maximum range for each segment: It defines the maximum and minimum

number of timesa data record corresponding to a segment cn exist in an IDOC.

- Segments : A segment defines the format and structure of a data record.

Segments are reusable componets. A segment consists of various fields that represent data

in data record.

• IDOC Run time components:

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- A unique IDOC number 16 digits is allocated.

- One control record is attached to the IDOC.

- Segments translate into data records.

- Status records are attached.

- Sytax rules are checked.

Message Type: Identifies what type of information transformed between logical systems or partners.Message type is not a local object type , it is transportable.

Best Regards,

Srikanth

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[Former Member]

Hi Pete,

an idoc example is ORDERS idoc......its message type is ORDERS04.........to see this idoc you can log into r/3 and by we30 transaction, you can see this idoc's structure................

Thanks,

Rajeev Gupta