When is Receiver Agreement not needed?

[Former Member]

Hi all,

I was going through the BPM logs and in one of the logs Jai Shankar had suggested that "we don't need a receiver aggrement if our target MI is Abstract"

Now I have several questions

1. In what cases will the target MI be Abstract? Why and when would we do that?

2. Why don't we need a receiver aggrement if our target MI is Abstract? What is the logic behind that.

3. Is there some other cases when Receiver aggrement is not needed.

Thank You

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Sonia,

1. Target MI will be abstract when our recipient is a Integration Process (ccBPM).

2. As far as my understanding goes, ccBPM is an executable process. It will not write a file or update any database after receiving the message, rather it will start executing the steps that you have designed in the IR. Receiver agreement actually determines <b>how the receipient will 'act' after receiving the message. Since the act is already defined (in IR design time), there is no need to define it again in Receiver Agreement.</b>

3. In all other cases, receiver agreement is needed.

Regards,

Amitabha

[Former Member]

Hi Sonia,

>>. In what cases will the target MI be Abstract? Why and when would we do that?

Abstract MI are used with in BPM. So if you are sending a msg into a BPM(the target is BPM), then you dont need a Receiver Agreement.

>>2. Why don't we need a receiver aggrement if our target MI is Abstract? What is the logic behind that.

Receiver Agreement is just to create a binding between your communication channel with your scenario, but imagine when the target is BPM you dont need any commn. channel at all. So no receiver agreement.

>>3. Is there some other cases when Receiver aggrement is not needed.

No. In all other cases, Receiver agreement is mandatory.

Regards,

Jai Shankar

[Former Member]

hey

can u send the link as to where u read this.i m under the impression that receiver agreement is required under all cases

thanx

ahmad

[Former Member]

I am not able to get the URL for some reason for if you search for the Phrase

">>dont we need to creat an interface mapping b/w ABS abd IB". That will be first discussion you will get and Jai Shankar has replied in the third one.

[Former Member]

Well atleast then answer the first question.

[Former Member]

hey

we need abstract Message interface to be used in BPM, coz BPM only understands abs interface,u cant use outbond/inbound interfaces there .

/people/krishna.moorthyp/blog/2005/06/09/walkthrough-with-bpm

have a look at the above thread to understand BPM

thanx

ahmad