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PCA in S4: newPCA vs classic PCA

former_member255936
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Dear all,
need your advise on how PCA is organized within S4 Hana.

We're looking to migrate from classic GL to S4 and currently reviewing different migration options:
1) classic GL -> new GL -> S4
2) classic GL -> S4 (w/o document splitting and all newGL features)

Documentation states: PCA (classic) never consumed new G/L real time integration.

Question is about newPCA vs classic PCA:
1) if we choose option #2 (migrate directly to S4) - will PCA become a part of ACDOCA table or it will remain untouched (will work as a separate ledger and will require reconciliation)?

2) do you have any documentation regarding newPCA solution and it's benefits?

3) if we want to make PCA part of ACDOCA table, do we have to migrate via new GL? or there are options to make PCA part of ACDOCA while migration to S4?

thank you,
Mikhail.

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Former Member

Hi,

first of all you need to understand what you're watting from PCA? What is the propose of it's use for you customer?

For example If you need BS,transfer prices then the only option is classic GL -> new GL -> S4.

After migration PC will be updating when posting docs by default, of cause if system will be able to derive it.

There are some note which describe differences, you can search on service.sap.com 

former_member255936
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hi Aleksey,
thank you for your reply!

yes, re usage of PCA - we're performing this kind of analysis to understand migration path and compare benefits vs costs.

The question is slightly different - where PCA sits within S4? in old tables or in ACDOCA?

Example:
We migrate to S4 directly from Classic GL.
We post finance document in S4.
Will PC information be posted in ACDOCA (1 document and PC stored as additional characteristic) or it will be separate document stored within old tables?

thanks

Former Member
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Hi, technically EC-PCA(or classic PCA) is untouched.

You can use it as before(if it was activated).

After migration classic GL -> S4 PC will updates in acdoca and bseg(let's say New GL concept will be applied), and new posting logic for PC will be applied (e.g. 3keh will be substituted on fagl3keh) .


During migration PC in acdoca should be updated based on bseg/coep tables...

'Will PC information be posted in ACDOCA (1 document and PC stored as additional characteristic) or it will be separate document stored within old tables?'

- so the answer ACDOCA-PRCTR will be updated as well as old table GLPCA(if I remember correctly) if you will feed PC data, means substitution, CO object and so on, but using new logic (e.g. 3keh will be substituted on fagl3keh). And the same story for Partner PC - you can't use old tcodes for update it, you need to use new BADi or substitution

NathanGenez
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If the profit center is part of the entry, then it should be in the ACDOCA line item.

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João_FI_FIN-CS
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Hi Mikhail,

According documentation, there is not a lot of differences to S4H. So you can check 826357 - Profit Center Accounting and General Ledger Accounting (new) in mySAP ERP note.

Thanks.

Former Member
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Hi Mikhail,

I think you have already got the reply in multiple views, I would like to add my view in below words.

I believe your question is not about the S/4 HANA, it seems it is about New GL. And it should be because there is no migration scenario available to activate below functionality once you have migrated from R/3 to S/4 without new GL

1. Document splitting

2. Balance sheet at profit center level

3. Parallel Ledger approach

4. Segment reporting

5. Inclusion of custom fields

If you are not thinking to have these functionality now or in future you can migrate to S/4 HANA, as EC-PCA is untouched in the functionality, means it will update ACDOCA and EC-PCA table for the profit center documents.

Hope this would have given more insight!

Thanks.

venkata_singanamala2
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Hi Mikhail

I knew some of the things were repeated but just want to high light one more time.

SAP recommend always CGL to NGL> S4 Hana Migration(1503 or 1511 but 1511 is good to avoid upgrade from 1503 and again testing what is there and not and what's new)

>You can go for CGL to S4 and I am confident you knew majority S4 Functions not available for you

> S4 GL  has been developed based on New GL and hence no new Functions for you Except

ACDOCA/universal Journal Entry

> New PCA is untouched in S4 : But  use

  Badi for Extension Ledger as it does not  store in  BSEG table and use BADI_FINS_APPL_RELEVANCE  to feed components( SPL/PCA  or ECCS)

Hope this will help you

Thanks

Venkat

sanilbhandari
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Hi Mikhail

Are you looking at transfer pricing (various valuation views like Profit center, legal etc). If yes, than you should consider migrating to New GL First and have the functionality of transfer pricing along with New GL and document splitting / parallel ledgers configured. Once you have stabilized on that, you should than consider migrating to S/4 HANA Finance. As of release 1511 EM or 1605 of S/4 HANA Fin, transfer pricing is not supported yet. This is a road map from SAP for 1610 EM which will release later during this year.

If you do not need above functionality and parallel ledger with document splitting functionality of New GL, than you can directly migrate from Classic GL to S/4 HANA Finance. This migration technically also activates the new gl but you do not get any functionality like Splitting or parallel ledger as a result of this migration. In your case, you can than use the new functionality of PCA like FAGL3KEH etc, but not transfer pricing or real time split. Additionally, you cannot use document splitting subsequently after you have migrated to S/4 HANA Finance as this is currently not supported.

Regards

Sanil Bhandari

João_FI_FIN-CS
Active Contributor
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Hi Mikhail,


In the S4H you still have 3KEH that is for Balance Sheet Accounts and P&L per CO Area. In the New GL since 2005 also used the FAGL3KEH that is the same 3KEH but per company code. And OKB9 still alive for primary and seconday costs Accounts.


Remeber that you do not have anymore Element Cost, so you cannot insert the cost center in master data, just in the OKB9. If you need to create, use the FS00.


Thanks.


JPA