on 10-03-2014 8:42 PM
Hi Gurus,
1) Is there any plan of SAP to substitute APO with some other Planning Tool e.g. SAP S&OP (HANA Based) in next 5-8 years?
2) Will SAP continue to support APO for near future ? (5-8 years)
If there are some links describing SAP's strategy about APO's future -- then kindly share the same.
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Hi GIG,
I am not sure what is going to happen.. I have the same doubts.
If your look at the first thread that I shared, in the last paragraph of the post made by Martin Barkman, you have this:
Will all the features in SAP APO be included in the new integrated business planning solutions?
This is not a re-write of SAP APO on a new platform. Over time, business needs have changed, new algorithms have evolved, and technology for decision support has advanced. SAP intends to support the current and future needs of business, taking advantage of new technologies and innovations and 20 years of learnings. In the spirit of simplification for cloud based solutions, not all SAP APO features will be, nor even need to be, replicated. It is also planned that additional new features and relevant industry specific requirements will be included over time to meet today’s dynamic business needs.
I am not sure what is his source, but something is going to change..
In 2020, it seems SAP will stop supporting APO, but at that time, most of the companies will still have APO in the current platform...
Now, I think that around 2020, just a few companies will start transformations and SCM consultants will be part of those projects. What is going to be the transformation, I am not sure, just I know some one will need to make that transformation, and a SCM consultant will be the most prepared person to help in such implementations.
Kind Regards,
Mariano
Thanks a lot Mariano.
My take of situation around 2020 is -- With APO being gradually phased out by SAP, SCM consultants will still be required but those who have SAP APO + SAP X (New planning tool) Experience.
I am just trying to figure out what this X is ....
Whether X is HANA based S& OP or something else is not clear to me...
In my view --it will be good for experienced APO consultants to start working on X in a couple of years to be prepared for 2018 or 2020.
Key question -- What is X ?
Dear GIG SL,
Here's my two cents.
1) Is there any plan of SAP to substitute APO with some other Planning Tool e.g. SAP S&OP (HANA Based) in next 5-8 years?
Ans) No. SAP will support SAP APO until 2025. Apart from that S/4HANA platform will have SCM, ERP etc in one box and is not going to be sunset. About SAP IBP, info is there in this thread already.
2) Will SAP continue to support APO for near future ? (5-8 years)
Ans) Yes. Please see above.
If there are some links describing SAP's strategy about APO's future -- then kindly share the same.
For more information see links in the post: http://scn.sap.com/message/15749899#15749899
Regards
Satheesh
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Dear GIG SL,
SAP is developing new application that is SAP integrated business planning.
Planning, budgeting, forecasting and financial consolidation in single application.
You can refer
and
Regards,
Sachin
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Thanks Rahul but that does not answer my question -- who is APO's succesor ? For sure --some HANA based solution but which of these ?
1. SAP Integrated Business Planning for sales and operations,
2. SAP Integrated Business Planning for inventory,
3. SAP Integrated Business Planning for supply and
4. SAP Supply Chain Control Tower.
Hi GIG SL,
From the presentations I've seen and the blogs, the answer is all of them. Supply Chain Planning, whoever supplies the software and by APICS definitions (don't make me provide specifics), includes forecasting (S&OP), Replensihment (Supply), Inventory and Monitoring (Supply Chain Control Tower). The functions in APO will be similar in IBP plus IBP provides a different approach and enhanced features.
These are my own opinions and not those of SAP.
Best regards,
Mike
Hello Dear,
SCM Connections | Change is a coming to the planning landscape in SAP.
Please check this link, hope this answers all your questions.
Regards
Rahul Chitte
Hi GIG
SCM-APO will not be obsolete , With SAP HANA, SAP provides a product that uses in-memory computing technology to optimize your business processes. SAP HANA comprises the required hardware as well as SAP HANA appliance software (SAP HANA database and data replication tools
You can, of course, continue to use SAP SCM on other databases.
SAP will continue APO with any other platforms , SAP HANA more innovation and optimization
Regards
Rami
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Thanks a lot Rami.
My take of situation around 2020 is -- With APO being gradually phased out by SAP, SCM consultants will still be required but those who have SAP APO + SAP X (New planning tool) Experience.
I am just trying to figure out what this X is ....
Whether X is HANA based S& OP or something else is not clear to me...
In my view --it will be good for experienced APO consultants to start working on X in a couple of years to be prepared for 2018 or 2020.
Key question -- What is X ?
Hi GIG ,
SAP's New SCM Strategy Puts Hana in the Spotlight
SCM on HANA has been available since 12/2012. SCM/APO consultants are still required to design and configure all of the typical APO settings and processes.
The first difference with HANA is in performance. Depending upon the process, applications will run 25% faster to 10X faster. There will be no need for a separate liveCache anymore. It will run on the HANA database. Total cost of ownership will decrease with less hardware required. HANA will handle huge amounts of information and process it much more quickly than is presently the case. Analytically capabilities and presentation will be expanded tremendously.
Regards
Rami
Hi Rami,
In the below thread -- a consultant from SAP has suggested that standard APO support will end in 2020.
I interpret this as no more design and configuration of APO beyond 2020 ?
I am not sure what is your source of info when you say -- "SCM/APO consultants are still required to design and configure all of the typical APO settings and processes." Can you please elaborate.
Hi GIG
I don't know how do you expect that SAP will be ended in 2020 !! , Hana is just platform for more faster and optimization , i already checked this thread you sent it and by the end no body say APO will be sunset , SAP does't say official any something like this , it just Rumors
For more information, please refer to my latest article in SAPinsider, which can be accessed through:
http://scn.sap.com/community/scm/blog/2014/10/07/integrated-business-planning-takes-off-in-the-cloud
Also, last week I hosted a webinar on this topic which can be accessed at:
Thanks a lot Mark.
I think the main point which is creating flutters is below(taken from your article) :
SAP APO, as part of SAP Business Suite, has a planned standard maintenance date of 2020. Decisions about maintenance timeframes made for SAP Business Suite will automatically be inherited to SAP APO.
What is the meaning of this statement ?
1) In lay man's language it looks like SAP will phase out APO in 2020.(with extended support of 2-3 years if requested by client). Is it correct ?
2) Post 2023, What will happen to thousands of clients who have implemented SAP APO ? Do they have to mandatorily shift to some new tool or what ?
Can you please suggest answer of both.
Hi GIG
Please check this note 1648480
Core application releases of SAP Business Suite 7
Mainstream maintenance for SAP ERP 6.0, SAP CRM 7.0, SAP SCM 7.0, SAP SRM 7.0, SAP PLM 7.0 (delivered with SAP ERP 6.0 enhancement package 4) and enhancement packages to these releases will be extended through December 2020
This Normal for SAP to support until specific date for specific release , and if APO will end in 2020
the others core application like ERP 6.0, SAP CRM 7.0, SAP SRM 7.0, SAP PLM will be ended also ??!
I do respect your worry as i also i'm , and i hope if martin can response as he Head of supply chain at SAP , and he can confirm for what i said
Regards
Rami
Hi Martin,
Can you please clarify the questions raised ny me and Rami.
I think the main point which is creating flutters is below(taken from your article) :
SAP APO, as part of SAP Business Suite, has a planned standard maintenance date of 2020. Decisions about maintenance timeframes made for SAP Business Suite will automatically be inherited to SAP APO.
What is the meaning of this statement ?
1) In lay man's language it looks like SAP will phase out APO in 2020.(with extended support of 2-3 years if requested by client). Is it correct ?
2) Post 2023, What will happen to thousands of clients who have implemented SAP APO ? Do they have to mandatorily shift to some new tool or what ?
Can you please suggest answer of both....
Please see this press release from earlier today titled "SAP Committed to Innovation and Choice for SAP Business Suite Applications".
http://www.news-sap.com/sap-committed-innovation-choice-sap-business-suite/
To learn more about the SAP SCM strategy, I invite you to register, with your company email address, for our webcast series through this link: Event Registration The webcasts are recorded and so you can listen in to them at your convenience.
Hi Martin,
Great thanks for sharing the info.
As per above news there are 4 applications which will be introduced ( quoted below):
1. SAP Integrated Business Planning for sales and operations,
2. SAP Integrated Business Planning for inventory,
3. SAP Integrated Business Planning for supply and
4. SAP Supply Chain Control Tower.
Last Question before I close this thread --- Which one is likely to be used for 'Advanced Planning' the most ? My guess is the answer might be just one of them or a combination of all the 4 but can you please help and clarify...
Thanks in advance! Really appreciate your help!
To date, we have already introduced the four solutions you mention above, but please refer to my latest article in SAPinsider that I posted earlier (http://scn.sap.com/community/scm/blog/2014/10/07/integrated-business-planning-takes-off-in-the-cloud) for the SAP strategy for integrated business planning and supply chain monitoring.
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