Idoc to soap sync without bpm. is it possible? Helping me..

[former_member190681]

Hi Experts,

i have a small clarification Idoc to soap sync interface in sap pi 7.0. i created IDoc to Soap sync using BPM but some times the signals are stuck due to load issue in swpr, while reprocess those signals all going successfully to the receiver. So We are trying to eliminate BPM.

I just wanted to know Idoc to Soap sync scenario without BPM is possible or not in SAP PI 7.0?

if it is possible kindly send me the links

Regards,

Kiran polani

[former_member190624 · Accepted solution]

Hi Kiran,

Simply Answer is NO , you can't achieve this in PI 7.0

Thanks

Hari.

[jyothi_anagani]

Hi Kiran,

Could you please let us know the exact requirement. How do you want to send the response back to IDOC?

ASync - Sync Bridge with IDOC sender is not possible in PI 7.0.

If It is something like IDOC --> SOAP --> IDOC , And If the SOAP request is small then you can use SOAP Lookup in IDOC to IDOC Scenario.

In The mapping You can do a lookup and get the response from SOAP(Webservice) and map that to your Target IDOC.

This is one possible way for you without BPM in PI7.0.

Please let me know if you need more details about this.

Thanks

Jyothi A

[ambrish_mishra]

Not possible in 7.0...

Ambrish

[AntonioSanz]

Check this

But I this that you need 7.3

[iaki_vila]

Hi Anotonio and Ambrish,

I haven't tested the async/sync bridge in a PI 7.0, but in this wiki said that is possible in PI 7.0 SP 10: Sync-Async without ccBPM - Process Integration - SCN Wiki

Regards.

[turmoll]

How do you want to 'process' response message send back from SOAP adapter by IDoc adapter that resides on ABAP stack?

You can emulate sync-async if adapter resides on JAVA stack makin use the modules. However, SOAP adapret can handle sync mode without any problem. Which is not the case for e.g. File adapter.

/Jakub Turminski

[ambrish_mishra]

Hi Inaki,

I have implemented Sync-Async without BPM in File - Sync Proxy - File and JMS- Sync Proxy - JMS but I dont think IDoc - Sync - IDoc is possible because of the nature of IDoc communication.

Request/response beans don't work with IDocs.

Ambrish

[former_member190681]

Dear Ambrish,

i seen the link which u posted, that is work for other scenarios like Soap to RFC and jdbc-> RFC, rfc--> Jdbc ...etc. but in the case of IDoc to soap module parameter shouldn't work. why because idoc sender in 7.0 module parameter is not editable. and it is not workable.

Thank you for you information. if any other way Kindly share it.

Regards,

Kiran Polani

[iaki_vila]

Hi Ambrish,

Thank you for sharing your experience with the IDOCs. Do you think it's not possible because the IDOC adapter is in the ABAP stack? have you think that with idoc_aae the error will persist?

Regards.

[ambrish_mishra]

Exactly! it won't work since IDoc adapter is on the ABAP. IMO but not experience, it should not persist with IDOC_AAE.

Ambrish

[turmoll]

Hello,

You cannot mix asynchronous (IDoc) mode with synchronous mode in one brokered scenario.

/Jakub Turminski

[Former Member]

Hi, in emergency case, you can make (async) idoc to proxy scenario and in proxy inbound interface make another sync interface proxy to soap. It is looks strange but it works.

Best regards

   Vedran