Change in pricing date in Sales orders.

[Former Member]

Hi friends,

In an existing  Sales order if ONLY THE PRICING DATE IS CHANGED and the Sales order is  saved is there any possibility of the Sales order getting blocked due to Credit limit status   and also does change of pricing date affect the confirmed quantity in the schedule line tab of a Sales order.   

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Uday

[Lakshmipathi · Accepted solution]

To my knowledge, yes sale order will go for credit block if pricing date is changed.  I am not sure on this since long time back, I have tested this.  On the availability, yes if credit block is there, system will not confirm stock which is controlled by routine 101 assigned in OVB8.

G. Lakshmipathi

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear lakshmipathi sir

I am very interested to know one point from you ..

If we changed pricing date  how sales document is blocked due to credit

Dear sir plz explain a little bit

i am very thank ful to you ..

[former_member182378 · Accepted solution]

G Lakshmipathi,

1. The routine 101 you have mentioned in OVB8, where is this given / placed? (e.g. routines are given in VTAA)

2. Are there any settings in OVA8, which make field "confirmed qty" = 0; when the value of a sales order exceeds the credit limit?

[Lakshmipathi · Accepted solution]

Execute program LV07A101 so that you will come to know it is an in-built logic done by SAP

G. Lakshmipathi

[former_member182378 · Accepted solution]

G Lakshmipathi,

I have looked in the code of this program.

If VBUK-CMGST = B (Document NOT OK); then give an Error message!

To clarify, is this program applicable for ALL sales document types?

And this is not part of any basic function e.g. Availability check, Credit Management etc.

Furthermore, if this code has to be made specific for particular sales document types, then some lines of code have to be written in order to meet the (above) requirement?

Thank you, in advance!

[former_member211108 · Accepted solution]

Hello T W

My understanding on this is as: The triggering of this code is controlled in Sales document by Schedule line category. If Transfer of requirement is activated then the said routine will be executed provided it is configured on below path

Sales and Distribution-->Basic Functions-->Availability Check and Transfer of Requirements-->Transfer of Requirements--> Maintain Requirements For Transfer Of Requirements

  or Maintain Requirements For Purchase And Assembly Orders

Also please refer the SAP documentation on the routine which says:

[former_member182378 · Accepted solution]

Atul,

Many thanks!

Two questions, based on the SAP F1 Help screenshot you have pasted:

1. It says that this is relevant during Availability check.

So is this program relevant during AVC or TOR?

2. Routine 101 has this check (confirmed quantity = 0 if sales order is blocked due to credit)

Is this a "separate" point?

And where exactly is 101 "put"? (e.g. in copy control)

[former_member211108 · Accepted solution]

Hello T W,

The routine can be maintained using below path:

Sales and Distribution-->Basic Functions-->Availability Check and Transfer of Requirements-->Transfer of Requirements--> Maintain Requirements For Transfer Of Requirements

  or Maintain Requirements For Purchase And Assembly Orders

This is used for controlling  TOR.

Regards,

Atulkumar Dagade

[former_member182378 · Accepted solution]

Atul,

Thanks for your post!

Coming to the original question / post, if pricing date is changed, the confirmed quantity can be zero, if the sales order is blocked when the credit limit is passed.

But if for that sales order, the schedule line category is not activated for TOR

(but activated for AVC), then even if the sales document exceeds the credit limit; the confirmed quantity would be non-zero.

Is my conclusion correct?

G Lakshmipathi,

Please comment.

[former_member184080]

Dear Udaynath,

Let me try to explain you.

Say for e.g. you have created a sales order with 11.04.2013 as the price date. Assume that at the time of order creation customer has credit limit hence, order has been saved without any credit block.

Now, due to some reasons if you have to change the price date, At the time of chaning Price date, the order may get into credit block if it meets the below requirments.

Scenario 1:

The pirce date has picked up th new price values and due to this the net value is exceeding your customer credit limit it will go for credit block and will not confirm qty till you release the order.

Scenario 2: At the time of price date change you already created few more orders hence this order value is exceeding the credit limit, it will go for block.

Scenario 2: At the time of price date change you have some open items (Which are due more than what you have maintained in OVA8), in this case it will go for block.

On top of all these: If your original order itself is under crdedit block and you are changing price date without releasing the order, it will still go for block.

Hope its clear now,

Let see what others say on this.

Regards, Sai Krishna.

[Former Member]

Dear sai sir

in this case critical field check will be activated in OVA8 ?

[former_member184080]

Dear Venu,

No, in my case i have not activated it. If i am not wrong the critical fields are related to payment terms. I don't think so it is something to do with Price date.

Regarads, Sai Krishna.

[phanikumar_v3]

Dear all,

Changing the pricing date in sales order --- sometimes may be blocked

or may not be blocked due to credit issues.

You will agree with me that we can understand with examples.

Suppose I have a customer with the credit limit of $10,000.

And his current limit is $2,000  (all open orders+open deliveries+open billing+open item) is $8,000.

Today I am creating an order for 20 items (each item costing $100) with

pricing date of today.

At this stage, now there is no-credit block.

Now if I change the price date delayed to next week

(in vk11-increased the cost/price of my material to $100 to $110 due to

business recommendations)--
At this stage the changed order will go for credit block.

Just if you think reverse---from $110 of original price reduced to $100 (due

to business recommendations)
then the original sales order is on credit block---changed order will not
go for block.
Also meanwhile we have to consider customer payments back to business too.

Hope it clarifies.

Also let us us come to the effect on Sch.lines.

System may confirm the original sales order--can/ cannot confirm the
changed order too.
Because always the availability will be depended on the requested delivery
date and not on the pricing date.
If this customer is C-class customer -where the stock can be delivered
after one week-- even though you confirm for him,

you can reschedule it based on the other

customer classification with high priority.

Phanikumar

[Former Member]

HI Phani,

If this customer is C-class customer -where the stock can be delivered

after one week-- even though you confirm for him,  

you can reschedule it based on the other

customer classification with high priority.

could please elborate above mentioned with some more clarity?????

warm regards,

jagadeesh

[phanikumar_v3]

Dear jagadeesh

You can reschedule the stock by doing the rescheduling concept in V_RA.

Hope it helps.

Phanikumar

[siva_vasireddy2]

Hi,

  There is a Possibilty of change in the pricing date of the sales order which might Effect the Credit limit status based on the increase or decrease of the price.

Change in the pricing date will not Effect the confirmed Qty and schedule lines.

[Former Member]

Dear siva vasi reddy

Plz tell me how sales order is blocked if we changed pricing date and just give some light information on

the increase or decrease of the price.

plz explain more

thank you so much

[former_member186385]

Hi,

There would be no impact of pricing date  on the credit limit status unless you put a code

Pricing date is used only as one of the criteria for COLLECTIVE Billing

And the Pricing condition records will be determined in the sales order based on the validity periods of Pricing date

Pricing date can be either current date or Requested delivery date

Apart from these any other impact

regards,

santosh