collect IDOCs

[deva_gembali2]

Hi experts,

    I would like to know outbound IDOC to file interface.

Here, i have collect same data type of IDOC ,for example collect one day IDOCs and trigger at night , so that collect all information and create to single file .

Otherwise,can we trigger IDOC and update the same file ???

If i am choosing choosing collect IDOCs in we20, still  it is creating single messages in PI but i need to be created one message with multiple IDOCs.

Regards,

Deva

[former_member184789 · Accepted solution]

Since you are collecting IDoc's based on time, you should use BPM. In BASIS namespace in ESR in namespace http://sap.com/xi/XI/System/Patterns check the sample pattern BpmPatternCollectTime. This is exactly as per your requirement. Here is the screenshot of the pattern:

[nidhi_srivastava22]

Hi Vinodh,

You need to set collect IDoc in we20 and set the package size. Also, in the mapping you need to change the occurence from 0 to unbounded.

Thanks,

Nidhi Srivastava

[Former Member]

Hi this is vinodh

In SMQ2 how to reprocess the queues, plz can any one guide me regarding this.

[deva_gembali2]

HI All,

    I have gone through different methods and taken the best.Still need some clarifications....

1. IDOC --> File Port : Avoided bcz , file generated in ECC which is complex IDOC structure and take time develop, but can easily done. Its a fixed length format file.

2.  BPM ,can easily do but performance issue if i wait until one day to collect all IDOCs

3. IDOC packaging : In PI7.3.1, i couldn't see Idoc packaging in sender IDOC_AAE channel but MultiIDcos in single  message option,i checked it.And, in ECC -we20,i choose Collect IDOC option.

When i am testing, still generating single IDOCs in PI by background job triggered in ECC. Those are not combined into single message.

I need more on mapping portion, i have tried direct IDOC . Can i required to do 0-unbound??

If i use XSD, messages are not coming to PI.

In addition to that i have to use, ( mult-mapping 1:n(4). same multi IDOC Type- 4 different files )

Please advise me.

Regards,

Deva

[Former Member]

Hi Deva,

how did you solve your problem?

now i have a same one.

please advise me.

thanks and regards

Rene

[former_member184720]

Hi Rene -

Have a look at the below notes from SAP

5) Idoc packaging

Following limitation exist for the functionality:

Only support for integrated configurations (not for classical scenarios)

Only package size can be configured in channel, other parameters (like Maximum package memory and timeout),  need to be configured globally as Messaging System property in NWA

Only support for EO

Packaging is done for idocs received in each node (of a cluster). The order is not considered

In case of failure during delivery of a package, the idocs would be retried individually (may be send with another package with another set of idocs). The TID uniqueness is not guaranteed while resending.

The package size is determined in terms of incoming XIMessages. If payload contains multiple idocs in idocxml it would still be treated as single entry while determining package size.

Also check the SAP note:

Message Packaging in Advanced Adapter Engine

SAP Note Number: 1913972

[Former Member]

Hi Hareesh,

thanks for your prompt reply.

this note is about Idoc packaging in receiver channel, but not sender.

Regards

Rene

[deva_gembali2]

HI Rene,

   Atually i avoid collect IDOcs.

IDOC--> File , i configured file update mode at FILE adapter. All IDOCs collected at target file one by one.

Deva

[rajasekhar_reddy14]

Hi Deva,

Avoiding BPM right design in your case,i would prefer below approches

1)Colelct all IDocs in ECC and write a back ground program to push all IDocs daily once.here you need to change partner profile to collect mode and mention IDoc count.

Then specify IDoc packging number in IDoc sender channel.

No need to change anything in PI like changing IDoc occurence to 1 to unbounded like that,Only thing you need build mapping logic to support multiple IDocs.

2)Dont use collect mode, file receiver end use append mode.

Thanks,

Raj

[S0003485845]

Hello,

I would agree with Raja.

- try to avoid BPM.

- specify in ECC the option to "collect IDocs" in we20

- specify a IDoc-Sender-Channel that collect the IDoc

Then you just need some scheduled job in ECC that sends out the collected IDocs at a specific time.

Kind Regards

Stefan

[deva_gembali2]

Hi Experts,

   I am using PI7.3.1 and java stack only IDOC_AAE. In sender adapter, there is option multiple idocs to collect single file, so i checked it.

Still, in message mapping , if i use xsd file after changing idoc as 0-unbound , it is not working. Please let me know what approach we have to use in message mapping? xsd or direct idoc ?

Regards,

Deva

[anand_shankar10]

Hi Deva,

you have checked the idoc collection option in channel but in ALE config/WE20 you need to mention the number of IDOCS to be collected. But you need to collect the IDOC for whole 1 day and you can do it via BPM.

Thanks

Anand

[Former Member]

Deva,

You need to create external definition out of the xsd & then can use this external definition as source message type. Create source service interface by selecting the message type as External defintion & select your own ED.

Regards,
Ashish

[Former Member]

Hi Deva,

Instead of collecting the IDOC in PI by running BPM/Integration process all through the day, you can achieve by IDOC packaging. Once All the IDOCs are bundled  this will be processed through.

http://scn.sap.com/people/sravya.talanki2/blog/2005/12/09/xiidoc-message-packages

Regards,

Ashish

[udo_martens]

Hi Deva,

you have a couple of alternatives:

- Building packages: XI:Idoc Message Packages

- Storing in temporary file: Collecting IDocs without using BPM

- Collecting in BPM : IDOCs (Multiple Types) Collection in BPM

/Udo

[Former Member]

Hi,

In PI ,you need to modify the occurrence of IDOC to 0..unbounded.

Steps to change the occurrence in PI:

Export the IDoc to local system ,change the occurrence to 0..unbounded and re import back to PI as an external definition . 

Regards

Venkat

[anand_shankar10]

Hi Deva,

You can do this with BPM. The time to collect the IDOCS can be set as 24hrs and so you will get 1 message in PI with all the IDOC data as multiple line items.

But is it feasible??? That you have to decide.

Thanks

Anand