BI Upgrade NW7.0 to EHP1 NW 7.3

[Former Member]

Hi Friends,

We are upgrading our BI (Dual stack system From NW 7.0 to EHP1 NW 7.3. I have gone through some docs and found we have to split the stack before upgrading. The system have SEM-BW and FINBASIS of release 603..

My questions are

1.  is is it mandatory to split the stack or is their any way we can perform it with out splitting...

2. Can we perform direct upgrade to 7.31 or we have to apply any EHP in the system

3. We also have cluster in production environment, what will be the ideal approach to perform upgrade in production environment.

Please find the current Component details of my BI system

SAP_ABA	700	0017
SAP_BASIS	700	0017
PI_BASIS	2005_1_700	0017
ST-PI	2005_1_700	0006
SAP_BW	700	0019
FINBASIS	603	0002
BI_CONT	703	0012
SEM-BW	603	0002

ST-A/PI

01N_700BCO

0000

-

Thanks,

Satyabrat

[former_member189725]

1. You will have to split the dual stack.

Refer the SAP note Note 1655335 - Use Cases for Splitting Dual-Stack Systems

2. You can upgrade directly from NW 7.0 to NW 7.31. Use SUM to do the upgrade . Refer the link

https://websmp104.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000783082011E

3. In a cluster environment , please make sure you freeze the cluster (stop the cluster service) and bring CI and DB on the same host if they are running on different nodes.

For SEM-BW , refer to link https://websmp209.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000836252010E

and check page 20. The version of SEM-BW would 6.36 on NW 7.31.

Regards

Ratnajit

[Former Member]

1. You will have to split the dual stack. 

This is not correct. It is a recommendation (a strong one a that) but not an absolute must.Upgrades have been done to NW 7.3 retaining dual stack.course Of  it is subject to source release but in this case where NW 7.0 is under consideration dual stack upgrade is possible.Had it been NW 7.03 it would have been a different story.

I also till sometime back thought  that dual stack upgrade isn't possible to NW 7.3 till someone told me that it is and verification shows it is.

Regards.

Ruchit.

[former_member189725]

I was in the same impression as well , but thanks for pointing this . But the point mentioned in SAP note 1655335 , needs attention which says in NW 7.3 or 7.31 , dual stack split tool cannot be used to split , rather a request has to be made to SAP to provide one. Hopefully they release it in future for such a scenario.

Regards

Ratnajit

[Former Member]

Thanks Ruchit/Ratnajit for your valuable inputs..

Now I am bit confused how to proceed further...can you guys tell me what will be the best approach to perform this upgrade...

I also have raised it to SAP but there is no response yet...

Thanks..

Satyabrat

[Former Member]

Hi,

Addition to that please find my stack.xml file which is created using solman 7.1 sp4

Three compnents are geeting deleted from ABAP if I am upgrading te system to 7.3 .

Is my stack.xml file is correct.

Kindly suggest

*************************************************************************************************************

[stack xml data: version=1.0]

[stack]

[APP_SYSTEM]

MBD     0020295370

[SPAM_CVERS]

BI_CONT                       747       0001

PI_BASIS                      731       0004

SAP_ABA                       731       0004

SAP_BASIS                     731       0004

SAP_BW                        731       0004

ST-PI                         2008_1_7000006

[PRDVERS]

01200314690900000192SAP NETWEAVER                 04                            sap.com                       SAP NETWEAVER 04                                                        -00000000000000

01200314690900000451SAP NETWEAVER AS ABAP         7.1                           sap.com                       SAP NETWEAVER AS ABAP 7.1                                               -00000000000000

01200314690900000866SAP NETWEAVER                 SAP EHP1 FOR SAP NETWEAVER 7.0sap.com                       SAP EHP1 FOR SAP NETWEAVER 7.0                                          -00000000000000

01200314690900000868SAP NETWEAVER AS ABAP         7.11                          sap.com                       SAP EHP1 FOR SAP NW ABAP 7.1                                            -00000000000000

01200314690900001453PORTAL ADD-ON NW 7.01         PORTAL ADD-ON NW 7.01         sap.com                       PORTAL ADD-ON SAP NW 7.0 EHP1                                           -00000000000000

01200314690900002470SAP NETWEAVER                 SAP EHP3 FOR  7.0             sap.com                       SAP EHP3 FOR SAP NETWEAVER 7.0                                          -00000000000000

01200314690900002540SAP NETWEAVER                 7.3                           sap.com                       SAP NETWEAVER 7.3                                                       -00000000000000

01200314690900002648PORTAL ADD-ON NW 7.0          PORTAL ADD-ON NW 7.0          sap.com                       PORTAL ADD-ON SAP NW 7.0                                                -00000000000000

01200615320900001250SAP NETWEAVER                 7.0 (2004S)                   sap.com                       SAP NETWEAVER 7.0                                                       -00000000000000

01200615320900001418SAP NETWEAVER CE              7.1                           sap.com                       SAP NETWEAVER CE 7.1                                                    -00000000000000

01200615320900001488SAP NETWEAVER MOBILE          7.1                           sap.com                       SAP NETWEAVER MOBILE 7.1                                                -00000000000000

01200615320900001495SAP NETWEAVER PI              7.1                           sap.com                       SAP NETWEAVER PI 7.1                                                    -00000000000000

01200615320900001553ESR FOR SAP NETWEAVER CE      7.1                           sap.com                       ESR FOR SAP NETWEAVER CE 7.1                                            -00000000000000

01200615320900002084SAP NETWEAVER CE              7.1.1                         sap.com                       SAP EHP1 FOR SAP NW CE 7.1                                              -00000000000000

01200615320900002548SAP NETWEAVER PI              7.11                          sap.com                       SAP EHP1 FOR SAP NW PI 7.1                                              -00000000000000

01200615320900002549SAP NETWEAVER MOBILE          7.11                          sap.com                       SAP EHP1 FOR SAP NW MOBILE 7.1                                          -00000000000000

01200615320900003225SAP NETWEAVER                 SAP EHP2 FOR SAP NETWEAVER 7.0sap.com                       SAP EHP2 FOR SAP NETWEAVER 7.0                                          -00000000000000

01200615320900003664PORTAL ADD-ON NW 7.02         PORTAL ADD-ON NW 7.02         sap.com                       PORTAL ADD-ON SAP NW 7.0 EHP2                                           -00000000000000

01200615320900004494SAP NETWEAVER CE              7.20                          sap.com                       SAP NETWEAVER CE 7.2                                                    -00000000000000

01200615320900005175SAP NETWEAVER                 7.31                          sap.com                       SAP EHP1 FOR SAP NETWEAVER 7.3                                          +00000000000000

[SWFEATURE]

1                   01200615320900001250SAP NETWEAVER                 7.0 (2004S)                   sap.com                       SAP NETWEAVER 7.0: Application Server ABAP                              -00000000000000

1                   01200615320900005175SAP NETWEAVER                 7.31                          sap.com                       SAP EHP1 FOR SAP NETWEAVER 7.3: Application Server ABAP                 +00000000000000

3                   01200615320900001250SAP NETWEAVER                 7.0 (2004S)                   sap.com                       SAP NETWEAVER 7.0: Business Intelligence                                -00000000000000

3                   01200615320900005175SAP NETWEAVER                 7.31                          sap.com                       SAP EHP1 FOR SAP NETWEAVER 7.3: Business Intelligence                   +00000000000000

[SWFEATUREINC]

1                   012006153209000051753                   01200615320900001250SAP NETWEAVER                 7.31                          sap.com                       SAP EHP1 FOR SAP NETWEAVER 7.3: Application Server ABAP                 +000000000000

[INITIAL_CVERS]

BI_CONT                       704       0003

FINBASIS                      603       0002

PI_BASIS                      2005_1_7000017

SAP_ABA                       700       0017

SAP_BASIS                     700       0017

SAP_BW                        700       0019

SEM-BW                        603       0002

ST-A/PI                       01L_BCO7000000

ST-PI                         2008_1_7000000

**********************************************************************************************************************

Thanks,

Satyabrat

[former_member189725]

As mentioned in one of my previous reply for SEM-BW , refer to link https://websmp209.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000836252010E and check page 20. This slide gives an overview of the upgrade path of SEM-BW component with NW AS ABAP.

You will have to upgrade to SEM-BW 604 on NW AS ABAP 7.01, then move to SEM-BW 634 on NW 7.3 and then to SEM-BW 736 on NW AS ABAP 7.31.

In this situation you cannot upgrade from NW 7.0 to NW 7.31 with components FINBASIS and SEM-BW.

Refer these notes

Note 1243791 - FINBASIS 604 and SEM-BW 604: Upgrade to SAP NW AS 701

Note 1539356 - Upgrade to NW 7.3 with SEM-BW, FINBASIS, SAP_BS_FND, WEBCUIF

Note 1681434 - Upgrade SAP SEM 634 NW 730 to SAP SEM 736 NW 731

I suggest you wait till SAP comes back with a reply.

Regards

Ratnajit

[Former Member]

Hi Ratnajit,

Few more question..

1. If I will upgrade system from 7.0 to 7.31 then both the component will be uninstalled and other BW component will be upgrade??

Or It will not allow me to upgrade the system directly from 7.0 to 7.3 itself ??

Or I have to upgrade the system to 7.1 then to 7.31 ??

Thanks,

Satyabrat

[former_member189725]

I suggest you get the reply from SAP on how to move forward . But as per my suggestion , IT would be a 3 step upgrade in your scenario.

You will have to upgrade to SEM-BW 604 on NW AS ABAP 7.01, then move to SEM-BW 634 on NW 7.3 and then to SEM-BW 736 on NW AS ABAP 7.31.

You if deviate from the above path , may be you will loose components and the upgrade program will bug you in such a scenario.

You cannot upgrade to NW 7.1 and then to NW 7.31.

Regards

Ratnajit

[Former Member]

Thanks Ratnajit,

I am waiting for response from SAP.But mean while I am clearing of my concerns..

you told

"You will have to upgrade to SEM-BW 604 on NW AS ABAP 7.01, then move to SEM-BW 634 on NW 7.3 and then to SEM-BW 736 on NW AS ABAP 7.31."

If this is the case then what should be my approach as I am on 7.0 and how will I upgrade this perticular component

or you mean to say I have to upgrade whole BW system to 7.01 then to 7.3 and then to 7.31.

Thanks & Regards,

Satyabrat

[former_member84671]

Hi Satyabrat,

    Did you get a response from SAP yet about this?  I am doing a similar upgrade and would like to go from SEM-BW 604 on NW7.01 to SEM-BW 736 on NW AS ABAP 7.31.

     Can you confirm if we have to do this in two separate steps as suggested by Ratnajit?

Regards,

Jean Kelleher

[Former Member]

Hi Jean,

Yes I got reply from SAP and still the communication is going on.

It is confirmed that we need follow  two step approach for this upgrade i.e. from NW 7.00 to NW 7.01 (EHP1 for NW 7.0) and then from 7.01 to 7.31. and if you have a dual stack system then you have to go with split stack.

Regards,

Satyabrat

[Former Member]

1. Dual stack can be retained during upgrade. SAP  heavily recommends to split it up but you have the option to retain.

2. You can directly upgrade from NW 7.0 SPS05 to NW 7.31. You have SPS17 so it is okay.

However there are notes for FINBASIS and SEM-BW you should check out.

3. Cluster would play a role during downtime. It needs to be disabled (actually the HA). However for more details check the upgrade guides.

Regards.

Ruchit.