on 01-30-2007 5:20 PM
Hi,
I am looking for a solution for my company which has 8 plants, 3 of them are shut down and now 5 plants are active.
So inorder to reduce the size of the database(total size is 1TB, with the DR setup the cost seems to be high to maintain!) is there a way these 3 plants data can be separated from the rest active 5 plants data according to company code ?
We are at SAP R/3 4.6C, kernel 4.6D, Oracle 9.2.0.5 on HP-UX 11.0.
Any suggestion related to this will be greatly appreciated.
Hi Afreena,
You must consider , data archiving.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/ad/b594429d7c0631e10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
Regards,
Siddhesh
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Hi
Option -2: This are purely SAP inbuilt development tools for data loading/migration tools which is well-known by ABAP developers.
Option -3: This is done by SAP consultants and few SAP partners like Accenture, IBM, TCS, etc..
Regards
Madhu
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Hi
For case -2, if customer wants to have two systems, then there are three options:
Option-1: Make a system copy of original system.. And perform archive, delete & reorg on both the systems..
--> This is time consuming.. But if time is not an issue, then you can schedule archival job for archiving and deleting.. For reorg you can use non-office hrs
Option-2: Full fledged implementation using SAP standard tools for migration - BDC, LSMW.. For sure this will be cost-effective solution
Option-3: SAP migration tools.. This is considered as SLO (System Landscape Optimization).. You can get useful information in http://service.sap.com/slo
Regards
Madhu
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Hi
Let me understand your question..
Case -1: Is it that you want to delete the data of 3 plants from your primary SAP system ?
Case -2: Or you want to have two SAP systems with one system with 3 plants & other system with 5 plants ??
For case-1, you can use archival concept to archive, delete & reorg to reduce storage space in your system..
For case-2, you have to use migration tools to seperate out data..
Regards
Madhu
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Hi Madhu,
Thanks for your reply.
I can go with case 1 or case 2. The decision will be make upon which is cost effective.
Case 2: Could you please give me an idea if I want to make 2 SAP system out of one(R/3 4.6C, Oracle 9i, Hp-UX), what migration tools SAP offers (OR are you talking about 3rd party tools). So this will be at the database level separation, right ? Could you give me any references on the documents available ?
Thanks again.
Afreena
Hi Siddhesh,
Thanks for your helpful reply. I'll definitely go through the concepts of Data Archiving as I am not familier with it that much.
Have a question is it possible to Archive data according to the company code(say, for all the data for 3 plants ) from the database or is it only possible to Archive data on application layer ?
I know there are some archiving going on like :
CO-ITEM -- 3 yrs+current are online,
RL_TA -- 7months+current are online,
IDOC -- 4months+current are online
MM_MATBEL7months+current are online,
MC_S033 --- 7months+current are online,
JIT_SJCALL --- 6months+current are online
Thanks.
Afreena Akhtar
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Hi,
Just want make sure my question has been understood and if anyone can help with this. Looking for a solution either in database level or application level.
Is it possible to divide a oracle database according to company code at the database level ? Like even if, it need to use any 3rd party tool ? and is there any 3rd party tool anyone know exists which does that ?
Is it possible to divide a oracle database/Archive according to company code in application level so that the complete data for a plant can be archived ?
Thanks.
Afreena Akhtar
Hi Afreena,
Archiving by company code or plant depends on the archiving object. Each archive object is different. For most finance objects, the data can be archived by company code. With the exception of some of the CO* objects. That data can cross company codes, so you may need to leave that data in the system. There are also archive objects that can be archived by plant, sales organization, purchasing organization, etc. You can check the selection criteria for the write job in each relavant archive object to see what is available.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Karin Tillotson
Hi Karin,
Thanks So much for taking the time to answer my question.
I am very new to archiving concept.
Could you please suggest me where to look into so that I can quickly pickup these, specifically I am looking for any documents, procedures,OSS notes(I have access to service marketplace). We are at 4.6C now.
How can I check the selection criteria for the write job in each relavant archive object ?
Thanks Again.
Afreena
Hi Afreena,
To check the selection criteria for an archive write job, go to transaction SARA, enter archive object name, click on the write button, enter some test name for the variant (you do not need to save this) , click on Maintain, and this will take you to the selection criteria. Here are some examples of options for some of the standard archive objects:
Archive object Selection option
FI_DOCUMNT Company Code
EC_PCA_ITM Company Code
MM_ACCTIT Company Code
SD_VBAK Sales Org
RV_LIKP Sales Org
SD_VBRK Sales Org
MM_MATBEL Plant
MM_EBAN Plant
MM_MATNR by Plant/Storage location with OSS note 543279
PM_ORDER Plant
MM_EKKO Purchasing Org
I am not sure if this is formally documented anywhere, I put this together for my company's data archiving strategy.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Karin Tillotson
Hi Karin,
This is very helpful for me.
I am trying to see the size of this objects in different tables, by SARA-> giving the name of the object-> cliking on "Database tables" -> then "online space" -- can see the space in KB on tables.
Is this the efficient way to calculate roughly the space the object actually using ?
Thanks.
Afreena
Hi Afreena,
It depends on how you handle your "statistics". I would compare the information from DB15 with what is in DB02. The DB02 information will be more current. Within the DB15 transanction, and space statistics, you can check the Analysis date column as well to determine how current the information is.
Regards,
Karin Tillotson
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