In GATP would like to push schedule delivery date+1 day

[samir_ali]

Hi Experts:-

We have below requirement in GATP:-

Can we maintain a condition record for pick /pack time = 1 day against Shipping Point in particular Location.? In other word we would like to push schedule delivery date+1 day.

In APO we can see control data :- Plan (LEAD), load (LOAD), pick/pack (PICK), transport (TRAN), unload (UNLD)

In APO We have maintained value = 24:00 for location XXXX ( as per below steps)

1. In the SAP Easy Access screen choose Master Data ® Master Data for Transportation and Shipment Scheduling ® Create Scheduling Step.

2. Select a condition type.

3. Enter concrete values for the key combination.

4. Enter a duration (external display: hhhhhhh:mm).

While checking order, When the process branches into APO ATP, can see time 24:00 This seems to indicate that Pick/Pack record has now been found, but the scheduled delivery date is not being pushed out by one extra day.

Looking at the condition log in APO shows the following;;

Lead Plan:304 Access for Access sequence LEAD missing(Usage U)

Pick Pick : 208 Condition record has been found

Load Load: 304 Access for Access sequence LOAD missing(Usage U)

TRAN Transport: 009 Condition record is missing

UNLD Unload : 002 Access not made ( Initialized field)

Can you suggest.

[Former Member]

Samir,

Pick-Pack time will only affect delivery date if the order is forced into forward scheduling. During backward scheduling, the Material Availability date will instead be forced backward in time.

You can review the schedules that are proposed. in R/3, VA02 > select item > perform availability check. On the Delivery proposal screen, review the proposed Material Availability date, remember this. Now select the scheduling Icon (usually the last one on the right, yellow). Here you will see the condition records that have been found. Now from this screen, select the dates Icon,. In the dates display, the Pick pack time will cause there to be a difference between Material Availability date (previous screen) and the Goods Issue date. Or, you can select the graphics Icon and see the whole schedule.

In the case of 24:00 for Picking, MAD should be offset from Goods Issue by one day. Since you are not using TRAN, then the GI date should equal the Delivery Date.

Make sure you have entered a valid shipping calendar in your Shipping Point.

Best Regards,

DB49

[samir_ali]

Hi DB,

Thanks for your quick reply.

I have maintained this but still it is not picking up

Below details I can see :-

Location Time Zone Ship. Cal. S

Short Text Duration S

4010 EST

Pick 24:00

Transport 24:00

CST

regards

Samir

[Former Member]

Samir,

Well, this is contrary to your previous statement, where the log results implied that you were not determining a Transportation condition.

Anyway, no matter, back to picking. When you were checking, What was the MAD date? What was the Goods Issue Date/time that you saw when you clicked on the Dates button?

Best regards,

DB49

[samir_ali]

Hi DB,

I have added Transporation after your reply and tried again but it was not happending.

at present below are the dates

Delivery date D 04.11.2011

Goods issue date 03.11.2011

Loading date 03.11.2011

Material avail.date 02.11.2011

Transportation Plan. Date 03.11.2011

As tranporation duration is in route =3 days...with +24 hours effect we are expecting to get push to 7.11.2011 ( as Sat and Sunday holiday in calendar).

regards

Samir

[Former Member]

Samir,

Whoa, lets settle one thing at a time. Your original question:

We have below requirement in GATP:- 
Can we maintain a condition record for pick /pack time = 1 day against Shipping Point in particular Location.? In other word we would like to push schedule delivery date+1 day

You have successfully scheduled your order so as to include Picking time of one day. Evidence of this is found in your actual dates. .

Goods issue date 03.11.2011

Material avail.date 02.11.2011

There is a one day difference between these dates. This means the 'PICK' scheduling was successful.

Now you say you want the Delivery date to be pushed out. This will only happen when you invoke forward scheduling (e.g. scheduled Material Delivery Date is earlier than 'today'). If the proposed MAD is greater than today, then the requested delivery date can be achieved, and it will not be changed.

In your example, your MAD is November 2, based upon all scheduling you are doing. Here in the US, this is 'tomorrow'. Requested Delivery date is being met, no rescheduling of the delivery date is necessary.'

Now, you also mention Transportation. You say that the duration should be 3 days, but in your previous statement, you have shown that you entered 24:00 (hrs) as your TRAN condition. This is not 3 days. Change to 72:00 for your TRAN condition. FYI Route duration found in ERP is ignored.

Best Regards,

DB49

[samir_ali]

Hi DB,

are you trying to say that

a)Time maitain in Pick=24 hours will impact "Goods issue date" = Material avail.date +1 day

and will not touch "delivery date"

b) To increase Delivery date we should add time in TRAN with route

Is it ?

regards

Samir

[Former Member]

Samir,

Delivery date is generally determined in forward scheduling by several durations. I suggest you read online help about how shipment scheduling is done using the condition technique. The durations, and the dates that are affected, are detailed there in a nice little graphic.

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/EN/3a/92e217b3f54a5eae7a4ac8a99e5e87/frameset.htm

I say again that delivery date will only be affected when the system reverts to forward scheduling. For more info on this subject, refer to the ERP online help for an overview. This also contains a nice little graphic at the end so you can visualize forward scheduling. The SCM Condition technique works similarly, except all scheduling and all dates are calculated in SCM using SCM condition data..

http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_05/helpdata/EN/dd/5607e7545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/frameset.htm

Best Regards,

DB49

[samir_ali]

Hi DB,

Thanks, Very helpful links.

I did some testing on various sets of data change in APO for PICK and TRAN :-

Parameters :-

Order creation date 2-Nov

Route YR0004= 4 days

Calendar :-Sat and Sun holidays & 11th Nov bank holiday

Test 1 with 0 Day pick time, No TRAN maintained :-

Delivery date 8-Nov

Gi Date 7-Nov

Loading date 7-Nov

MAD 7-Nov

Transportation planning date 7-Nov

Test 2 with 1 day pick time, No TRAN maintained :-

Delivery date 8-Nov

Gi Date 7-Nov

Loading date 7-Nov

MAD 4-Nov

Transportation planning date 7-Nov

Test 3 with 3 day pick time, No TRAN maintained :-

Delivery date 8-Nov

Gi Date 7-Nov

Loading date 7-Nov

MAD 2-Nov

Transportation planning date 7-Nov

Test 3 with 5 day pick time, No TRAN maintained :-

Delivery date 9-Nov

Gi Date 9-Nov

Loading date 9-Nov

MAD 2-Nov

Transportation planning date 9-Nov

-

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Now next scenario only TRAN without PICK

Test1 with 1 day TRAN time

Delivery date 8-Nov

Gi Date 4-Nov

Loading date 4-Nov

MAD 4-Nov

Transportation planning date 4-Nov

*with 2 day and 3 day result is same as test1

Test2 with 4 day TRAN time

Delivery date 8-Nov

Gi Date 3-Nov

Loading date 3-Nov

MAD 3-Nov

Trasnportation planning date 3-Nov

Test3 with 7 day TRAN time

Can see Delivery Date moving ahead one day.

Delivery date 9-Nov

Gi Date 2-Nov

Loading date 2-Nov

MAD 2-Nov

Trasnportation planning date 2-Nov

-

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Now next scenario is to maintain data in both PICK and TRAN

Test 1 with 1 days pick time+ 1 day Tran

Delivery date 8-Nov

Gi Date 4-Nov

Loading date 4-Nov

MAD 3-Nov

Transportation planning date 4-Nov

Test 2 with 1 days pick time+ 6 day Tran

Delivery date 9-Nov

Gi Date 3-Nov

Loading date 3-Nov

MAD 2-Nov

Trasnportation planning date 3-Nov

Would like to know is this the correct standard behaviour or something wrong with our system config.

regards

Samir

Edited by: Samir Ali on Nov 3, 2011 4:07 PM

[Former Member]

Samir,

Would like to know is this the correct standard behavior or something wrong with our system config.

I don't have enough information to answer that question. Regardless, in the end, 'right' and 'wrong' ultimately is a function of whether the solution meets the Business requirements.

I will say that it appears that your transportation scheduling by "Condition Technique" is turned on and is working in your system.

Whether this meets your business requirements is another story. Do not expect me to sit and analyze all of your test scenarios, there are a host of factors that can affect delivery/transportation scheduling, and the management of date issues between R/3 and APO. For a start, make sure that you consult all of the notes attached to https://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/547941 and https://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/382746

If after reading all the relevant documentation, you are unable to arrive at a satisfactory solution for a specific Business problem, please let me know what the business problem is, and I may be able to offer a suggestion as to how to approach.

Best Regards,

DB49