on 08-30-2011 6:47 AM
Hello experts,
Our team has configured rule based gatp check parameters and maintained condition technique, relevant rules with product substitution, location substitution, profile parameters and rule determination.
We are having four condition tables i.e. most specific to most generic and condition records are maintained for all the key combinations, whereas system is picking up the record, which is most generic.
Please let me know how the system picks up the condition record in rule based atp check.
Thanks and Regards,
Sai Dacha
9849030809
Hello Sai,
Did you check what all fields are getting transferred in the field catalog?
You can also see rule determination from sales order ATP check screen and see if your conditions/ rules are appearing there or not.
If they are there then see by clicking on information button on the right side which shows what all values were sent to APO in the sales order.
One more thing I am not 100% sure about this but you can try:
In APO SPRO
Rules-Based Availability Check> Maintain Access Sequences> Accesses
Are you using "EXCLUSIVE" indicator? If not try using that.
Please let me know in case above information is not helpful. I will try to help you but let me know about field catalog.
Thanks,
Anupam
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Hi Sai,
Can you also check your check instruction and see if it has
--> "Activate RBA" and "Start immediately" check box checked for the check mode you guys are using and business event A
If you have this setting then I would like you to check in master data where you have created Integrated Rules:
Make sure you have maintained integrated rules correctly and assigned the correct location determination procedure.
--> Very basic point but no harm in checking, sometimes we miss very basic things: Do you have all the locations in APO and also products at those location which you want to populate in the sales order.
Going by the information you have provided it seems we are missing something simple. Lets try these steps and then if these do not work then I will try to help more.
Thanks,
Anupam
Hi Sai,
Apart from what Anupam said, you please check the validity of your Rules. If you could see your conditions and rules in your sales order GATP screen, it means that the rule determination is fine but something is wrong with the rule.
Also can you tell me what are all the fields you are using in your condition record?
Regards,
Manimaran M.
Hi Manimaran,
Please find the comments.
Apart from what Anupam said, you please check the validity of your Rules. If you could see your conditions and rules in your sales order GATP screen, it means that the rule determination is fine but something is wrong with the rule.
Comment:-
Rule Determination is fine.
Also can you tell me what are all the fields you are using in your condition record?
Comment:
Plant
Sold-to party
Order Type
Product Number
Sales Organization
Distribution channel
Thanks and Regards,
Sai Dacha
9849030809
Did you check this:
Hi Sai,
Can you also check your check instruction and see if it has
--> "Activate RBA" and "Start immediately" check box checked for the check mode you guys are using and business event A
If you have this setting then I would like you to check in master data where you have created Integrated Rules:
Make sure you have maintained integrated rules correctly and assigned the correct location determination procedure.
--> Very basic point but no harm in checking, sometimes we miss very basic things: Do you have all the locations in APO and also products at those location which you want to populate in the sales order.
Going by the information you have provided it seems we are missing something simple. Lets try these steps and then if these do not work then I will try to help more.
Thanks,
Anupam
Hi Anupam,
Please find the comments.
Can you also check your check instruction and see if it has
--> "Activate RBA" and "Start immediately" check box checked for the check mode you guys are using and business event A
Comment:
Both the check boxes are checked for the relevant combination.
If you have this setting then I would like you to check in master data where you have created Integrated Rules:
Comment:
I've maintained only one rule, which is in valid periods.
Make sure you have maintained integrated rules correctly and assigned the correct location determination procedure.
Comment:
Checked both Production Substitution and Location determination procedures and their assignments.
--> Very basic point but no harm in checking, sometimes we miss very basic things: Do you have all the locations in APO and also products at those location which you want to populate in the sales order.
Comments:
All the combinations of products and locations are in APO.
Thanks,
Sai Dacha
HI Sai,
Thanks for the reply.
--> Is your rule an: "Inclusive rule"
--> Can you check what is your Rule control setting in Integrated rules
What is the setting in Location tab: Try
"Start from Top of the list"
if it is currently something else.
--> Then also check inside Location determination procedure what is the value of Rule type if it is not "0" then try "0"
Check and let me know.
Thanks,
Anupam
Edited by: Anupam Sengar on Sep 9, 2011 8:16 AM
Edited by: Anupam Sengar on Sep 9, 2011 8:16 AM
Hi Anupam,
Thanks for your time.
Plz find the comments.
--> Is your rule an: "Inclusive rule"
Comment: Yes
--> Can you check what is your Rule control setting in Integrated rules
What is the setting in Location tab: Try
"Start from Top of the list"
Comment: It is "Start from Top of the list"
if it is currently something else.
--> Then also check inside Location determination procedure what is the value of Rule type if it is not "0" then try "0"
Comment: It is "0" only i.e.Substitution Chain (Only Serial Structures Allowed)
Thanks and Regards,
Sai Dacha
9849030809
Hi Sai,
Thanks for your reply.
---> Can you check CFM5 in your ECC system and see if this material is active in ATP CIF integration model for all the plants.
If not please activate, if it is activated let me know.
I will keep thinking what may be missing but I am running out of ideas :-).
Cheers,
Anupam
Hi Sai,
Please check the Access Sequence maintained in the SPRO for RBA. System will pick the condition records based on the Access Sequence only. If you have maintained generic condition table as the first sequence, the system will pick that one only.
If your scenario has more than one rule strategy, check Rule strategy sequence also.
Regards,
Manimaran M.
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Hi Mani,
The scenario over here is that the access sequence maintained here is from most specific to most generic and the condition records are maintained for all the key combinations.
System is picking up most generic one eventhough it is maintained last in the sequence and there is a condition record maintained for the most specific one.
Our scenario has only one rule strategy and there is no Rule strategy sequence too.
Thanks and Regards,
Sai Dacha
9849030809
Hi,
Please check if you have maintianed Business transaction in VOV8 (ECC system). Please also check online help http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/EN/fb/e6783739e6ff5de10000009b38f8cf/content.htm
Claire
Hi Sai,
Can you check with different combinations of your entry in the sales order and check whether it picks up different rule?
For example,
Condition Table 1: S.Org/ Sold-to-party/ Product
Condition Table 2: S.Org/ Sold-to-party
Condition table 3: Product
As per your case you maintained, condition records for all the above 3 conditions. Instead of picking the first condition table, it picks the last one. Have you done the analysis by deleting the last condition record - i.e, more generic one? By this you can restrict the system to select more specific condition record.
This will help you to analyze the issue little more deeper.
Please check and revert.
Regards,
Manimaran M.
Hi,
Then there is something wrong with your Rule determination setup.
What is the error you are getting? Please check the Check Instructions selected in your sales order for RBA active. If RBA is active, check the Rule determination procedure from the sales order only. I hope you know the ways to trouble shoot it.
Regards,
Manimaran M.
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