extension of MIC/code-group/selected set to other plants

[Subh]

Hi Experts,

In any plant even if we do not extend the MICs, groups and selected sets, we can go ahead with result recording and usage decision if we can include the MIC/selected set, etc. from some other plant in the inspection plan. Is it therefore necessary to extend these parameters to all plants in the landscape ? Experts please suggest if there is any other reason for extension.

Best regards

Sm.

[former_member662213 · Accepted solution]

The reason behind extension is:

- Authorization: Each plant person is responsible for its own master data maintenance only. Authorization of master data maintenance can't be given to other plant people.

- Every plant can have different requirements pertaining to one parameters (like MIC1 is required in one plant and optional in other) thus need to create MIC in different plants accordingly.

Thanks

SUMIT

[Subh · Accepted solution]

Hi Sumit,

As i find it, at the inspection plan level itself when you choose a characteristic you can also do the necessary changes to control indicator. So even if it was a required entry, you can change it to optional. So even if someone at plant 1000 is authorized to change the MIC pH, the person at plant 1100 using it in his/her plan may change the control indicator to suit personal requirement. Then why should pH be extended to 1100 rather than maintaining it in plant 1000 and using as per personalized requirement in other plants ?

Moreover, as i understand it, even with a required entry MIC, system may allow you to give UD without completing all characteristic recording. So why do we require extension ?

Also what is your opinion on code groups/sets ?

Regards

Sm.

[former_member662213 · Accepted solution]

In that case, you do not need to create MIC also but SAP has given a provision to you. And if you change the control indicator at MIC level in inspection plan, the upload program would be more complicated.

Selected set if you choose of other plant will lead to authorization problems also as authorization of selected set is required by end users for results recording at plant level also.

Thanks

SUMIT

[Former Member]

Hi,

You can use same MIC, selected set in all plants which are created in 1 plant.

But it is always better to create master data specific to plant.

Because every plant may having different scenarios, in MIC control indicator setting requirement may differ in each plant..

For ex -1 plant require additive sampling & other plant may not require.

Or 1 plant require MIC with calculate formula other plant may not want that.

Each master data is own by their individual master data team.

Regards

SANIL

[former_member42743]

It is not always better to create individual plant data. It depends on the scenario. If you use any batch management it is not better to have separate mic's in plants.

While it is true you can unlock mics in plans and make changes, I try not to allow that. Having central control over these items is important to long term quality control and maintainance of the system.

FF

[Subh]

Hi FF,

If you use any batch management it is not better to have separate mic's in plants.

Can you please explain how batch management may require one to have MICs created in one plant only and use them in other plants' inspection plans without extending?

Regards

Sm.

[former_member42743]

Its pretty straight forward actually.

Only general characteristics can be used in batch classification.

A general characteristic can only be linked to one MIC.

So if you create a MIC pH in plant 1000 and link it to the general characteristic pH you cannnot link any other MICs to it.

If you make the same material in more than one plant, and want to use batch classes, then is MIC must be shared across the plants. Hence, many consultants will recommend that all MIC's be created in a central plant and shared amoung all the plants. Since plans can also be shared across plants, they can also be maintained in a central plant.

FF

[Subh]

Hi FF,

But if inspection plan is maintained centrally then in all other plants the inspection lots created will have to be manually changed to assign the plan from the central plant and get the lot from crtd to rel state. Or is it also avoidable by some means so that the lots get rel status without manual intervention?

Regards

Sm.

[former_member42743]

No. The plan is assigned automatically. If the only assignment is to the central plan then the central plan will be picked automatically.

When you go into the material assignment you enter in the plant Id for the material being assigned.

If material 1000023 is in plants 1000, 1001, 10002 and 1003 and you create the plan in plant 1000 you would then have 4 assignment in the plan assignment area of the plan.

1 1000 1000023

1 1001 1000023

1 1002 1000023

1 1003 1000023

(1 is the group counter)

The automatic search for the plan is not limited to plans in the plant of the inspectiion lot.

FF

[Subh]

Hi Experts,

Thanks for all the suggestions. FF's clarifications resolved many of my doubts regarding this extension.

This thread is being closed.

Regards

Sm.