Physical sample Vs. Sample

[Former Member]

Hi Gurus,

I need to clarify what is the difference between physical sample and sample as it is really not clear......for me both are samples.

So any body have ideas??

Regards,

MaX

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Physical sample can be used during when you are doing GRN in number of container..

Ex- suppose you are doing GRN of 100 Kg in 10 container. In that case you want to draw sample all 10 drums it\n that case you need to use physical sample concept by using sample drawing procedure. In inspection plan give inspection point 200 ,put their sampling drawing procedure.. In time of result record system will show you 10 physical samples.

Now in sampling drawing procedure you have option after drawing sample from all 10 drums do you want to take result of all 10 drums or you want to take result of composite samples. In sampling drawing procedure also you can have option you want to draw Root N+1 ,Root N ,or all drums. Whenever you are using sampling drawing procedure you need to create sampling procedure with sampling management radio button on.

In short we can say physical samle means physically we are drawing 10 samples to take result of same batch either of all physical sample or composite sample.

If client really do not need to draw sample with above criteria then in that case only you can create sampling procedure with fixed sample qty. So their will be no physical sample come under picture.

For any clarification revert me back.

Regards

SANIL

[former_member42743]

They are the same, and they aren't!

When SAP refers to Physical Sample they mean a formal sample with its own unique number. The sample can be tracked in SAP, stored, inventoried, consumed, expired, etc.... SAP has the measn to calculate the number of sample required for a specific inspection process and create sample numbers for each required sample. Usually labels are printed out as well.

When they refer to samples, they mean basically the same thing, a poriton of material to be tested. But if you aren't using physical samples, this is usually just a number in the system, like the system expects 3 samples to be drawn and as a result of that calculation, three results to be enterred. It expects the three results but it won't print three labels or assign an actual, unique number to each sample as it does with physical samples.

[Former Member]

It is kinda making sense now...but what I understand now is that sample management tells you the number of the drawn sample, what about the quantity ?

[former_member42743]

Your ultimate sample size or qty is influencd by a host of items. These include the sampling procedures used in the various characteristics, the various control settings used in the characteristics, (destructive for instance), and use of parital samples.

The sample drawing procedue use for physcial samples can then in turn affect that through various values such as the size factor and reserve samples.

Trouble shooting sample sizes can be very difficult, especally via a forum like this!

You should avail yourself of all the SAP help you can get.

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_45b/helpdata/en/2d/35208b448c11d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_45b/helpdata/en/2d/350be5448c11d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm

FF

[former_member214626]

Hi Fire Fighter ,

You mentioned physical sample can be inventorized and consumed . Can yo please explain how ?

Regards