on 10-25-2009 5:51 PM
Hi All,
Is vmware supported for production environment ?
Thanks
Sunny
> Is vmware supported for production environment ?
Yes, as long as you don't use Oracle as database:
Note 674851 - Virtualization on Windows
Markus
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Hello Markus,
I found this note 1098847 last updated 12/01/2010 re: Virtual Machine Support for BPC
"SAP supports virtualization through the VMware software in development or
test environments. The use of BPC on VMware has not been extensively tested
by SAP, however, and for this reason we have not extended support to
production environments."
This sounds like SAP still not supporting vmare on SAP production environment for other than Oracle RDBMS
regards,
susanto
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Hi All
I need yours valuable Advice for SAP on VMware ( 3 Tier ). Please give your valuable comments on this Landscape.
Our company planning to have SAP on Windows VMWare with MS SQL Database (3 Tier Implementation)
Server : IBM DS4000 and DS5000 Series
Database : MS SQL 2005
VMWare : vSphere 4.0 Enterprise
Please guide me is there issue with this landscape.
thanks
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All,
I'm glad someone has outlined the clear support statement that has existed for sometime between VMware - SAP. For those of you still running on Oracle, here is some good news:
Wording towards SAP Customers requesting support:
"Oracle, VMware and SAP are working collaboratively to ensure support for SAP customers that use VMware virtualization for SAP solutions running Oracle DB. Functional tests are currently being performed to verify supportability of the SAP&Oracle stack. Details will be made available in SAP note 1173954 u201CSupport of Oracle for VMwareu201D after tests have been completed. It is expected that in Q1 2010, ESX 3.5 and later releases including vSphere 4 will be supported by Oracle and SAP according to Oracleu2019s metalink note 249212."
There is no reason why x86 platform today cannot run the most demanding workloads on VMware vSphere in a production environment. But has noted earlier, don't get hung up on "production" - you have heaps of TestDev, SolMan TestDev, sandboxes, gateways, application servers etc that should immediately by put into a VM - once you are comfortable with your solution in-house, I'm sure you will move production instances into a VM as well.
Below are some great resources for you to use in your quest to virtualize SAP on VMware:
Additional Resources
SAP Notes (for Windows platform)
674851: Virtualization on Windows
1104578: Virtualization on Windows: Enhanced Monitoring
1056052: Windows: VMware ESX Server 3.x or vSphere configuration guidelines
1260719: Detailed virtualization data using saposcol
SAP Notes (for Linux platform)
1122388 u2013 Linux: VMware ESX Server 3.x or vSphere configuration guidelines
1122387 u2013 Linux: Supported Virtualization technologies with SAP
171356 u2013 Virtualization on Linux: Essential information
SAP, VMware (and other) benchmarks
http://www.sap.com/solutions/benchmark/sd2tier.epx
Introductory document u201CVirtualizing SAP applications on Windowsu201D by SAP
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/70f63258-bff1-2a10-9db6-
cda6ef202bfc
VMware and SAP
White Papers, Success Stories, Webinars, Links, etc.
SAP VMware Blog
http://communities.vmware.com/blogs/SAPsolutions
Regards,
Andre Kemp
VMware Sr. Product Marketing Manager - Asia Pacific
Certified mySAP 2K and Migration Consultant
Edited by: Andre Kemp on Dec 10, 2009 9:00 AM
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Hi,
Just to chime in, all my non-prod systems (ECC6, BI, SolMan) are running on a VMWare host without any problems. Windows 2003 Server, MS SQL2005 Enterprise. I'd be completely comfortable moving the prod systems over if we had the VM licenses to spare.
Regards,
Michael
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> Just to chime in, all my non-prod systems (ECC6, BI, SolMan) are running on a VMWare host without any problems.
That's a good statement!
Just keep in mind that production systems usually have a MUCH higher load (hundreds, if not thousands of users), the load profile is very different to development/qa systems. This, of course, depends on the size of the systems in general and how much is effectively done on and with the system.
We had "blame circles" in error situations in the past, where the (non-SAP) application blamed the database, the database vendor blamed VMWare and VMWare blamed the application - and we as customers in the middle. I personally wouldn't want such a deadlock in a production down situation where you really need help.
Note: I'm not saying it's not working or that it wouldn't, I'm just dealing too long with IT stuff
Markus
I know what you're talking about, Markus. But SAP support for VMware has improved greatly. We have dedicated support engineers involved in the SAP and the VMware support organization. So if an SAP incident hits the VMware support components, we will investigate the VMware environment deeply. Sometimes we face the situation that the root cause analysis did not take place properly and we have to put the message "upwards" (in a technical layer view). Nevertheless, VMware support folks are able to identify faulty SAP components as well and it did not only happen once that we solved SAP problems.
As we all know that the stack works from a technical point of view, there is also no need to worry about running productive SAP systems on VMware from the support or critical incident handling perspective.
Matthias
No, Vmware is not supported for production environment. We are using ecc dev and quality on one server and bw dev and quality on another server.
whenever there is a major problem with guest OS both VM have to be shut down.
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> No, Vmware is not supported for production environment.
???
This is not true.
Note 674851 - Virtualization on Windows
<...>
1 Supported virtualization solutions
SAP supports the following virtualization solutions for productive use of SAP systems on virtualized hardware:
* VMware ESX Server 3.x and 4.0 (vSphere)
* Microsoft Hyper-V
<...>
However, this statement is not true for Oracle but for all other databases.
> We are using ecc dev and quality on one server and bw dev and quality on another server.
> whenever there is a major problem with guest OS both VM have to be shut down.
Then you have a VMWare issue and I'd contact the VMWare support.
Markus
Dear Sunny,
I installed BPC 5.1 versions of Windows in VMware vSphere 4.0.0 and run well
Regards,
Yusak
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