on 09-21-2009 10:08 AM
Hi Everyone,
I have a new install of Netweaver 7.10 and when I execute the sapstart command it takes approximately 10minutes to start. The startup script finishes fairly quickly but I'm only able to log-in 10mins later.
I 'm currently using kernel version 127 and we are using logical hostsnames.
I have also tried to started the database and SCS by itself to see if this doesn't improve the response time but no luck. I've searched all the trace files but nothing indicates what is delaying the startup time.
Has anyone else experienced this or do you have any suggestions?
Here is the Instance Profile:
SAPSYSTEMNAME = IP1
SAPSYSTEM = 30
INSTANCE_NAME = DVEBMGS30
DIR_CT_RUN = $(DIR_EXE_ROOT)/$(OS_UNICODE)/sun_64
DIR_EXECUTABLE = $(DIR_INSTANCE)/exe
SAPLOCALHOST = sapip1ci30
DIR_PROFILE = $(DIR_INSTALL)/profile
PF = $(DIRPROFILE)/IP1_DVEBMGS30_sapip1ci30
SETENV_00 = DIR_LIBRARY=$(DIR_LIBRARY)
SETENV_01 = LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$(DIR_LIBRARY):%(LD_LIBRARY_PATH)
SETENV_02 = SHLIB_PATH=$(DIR_LIBRARY):%(SHLIB_PATH)
SETENV_03 = LIBPATH=$(DIR_LIBRARY):%(LIBPATH)
#----
# Copy SAP Executables
#----
Execute_00 = immediate $(DIR_CT_RUN)/sapcpe$(FT_EXE) pf=$(_PF)
CPARG0 = list:$(DIRCT_SAPJVM)/sapjvm_5.lst
CPARG1 = source:$(DIRCT_SAPJVM)
Execute_01 = immediate $(DIR_CT_RUN)/sapcpe$(FT_EXE) pf=$(_PF) $(_CPARG0) $(_CPARG1)
jstartup/trimming_properties = off
SAPJVM_VERSION = 5.1.015
jstartup/vm/home = $(DIR_SAPJVM)
jstartup/max_caches = 500
j2ee/dbdriver = /oracle/client/10x_64/instantclient/ojdbc14.jar
exe/saposcol = $(DIR_CT_RUN)/saposcol
rdisp/wp_no_dia = 10
rdisp/wp_no_btc = 3
exe/icmbnd = $(DIR_CT_RUN)/icmbnd
rdisp/j2ee_start_control = 1
rdisp/j2ee_start = 1
rdisp/j2ee_libpath = $(DIR_EXECUTABLE)
exe/j2ee = $(DIR_EXECUTABLE)/jstart$(FT_EXE)
rdisp/j2ee_timeout = 600
rdisp/frfc_fallback = on
icm/HTTP/j2ee_0 = PREFIX=/,HOST=sapip1ci30,CONN=0-500,PORT=5$$00
icm/server_port_1 = PROT=P4,PORT=5$$04,HOST=sapip1ci30
icm/host_name_full = sapip1ci30.prasa.com
#----
# Register instance
#----
Execute_02 = immediate $(DIR_CT_RUN)/krnlreg$(FT_EXE) $(system/type) pf=$(_PF)
#----
# Start SCSA administration
#----
Execute_03 = local $(DIR_EXECUTABLE)/sapmscsa pf=$(_PF) -n
#----
# Start SAP message server
#----
MS = ms.sap$(SAPSYSTEMNAME)$(INSTANCE_NAME)
Execute_04 = local rm -f $(_MS)
Execute_05 = local ln -s -f $(DIR_EXECUTABLE)/msg_server$(FT_EXE) $(_MS)
Start_Program_00 = local $(_MS) pf=$(_PF)
#----
# Start application server
#----
DW = dw.sap$(SAPSYSTEMNAME)$(INSTANCE_NAME)
Execute_06 = local rm -f $(_DW)
Execute_07 = local ln -s -f $(DIR_EXECUTABLE)/dispwork$(FT_EXE) $(_DW)+
Start_Program_01 = local $(_DW) pf=$(_PF)
#----
# Start syslog collector daemon
#----
CO = co.sap$(SAPSYSTEMNAME)$(INSTANCE_NAME)
Execute_08 = local rm -f $(_CO)
Execute_09 = local ln -s -f $(DIR_EXECUTABLE)/rslgcoll $(_CO)
Start_Program_02 = local $(_CO) pf=$(_PF) -F
#----
# Start syslog send daemon
#----
SE = se.sap$(SAPSYSTEMNAME)$(INSTANCE_NAME)
Execute_10 = local rm -f $(_SE)
Execute_11 = local ln -s -f $(DIR_EXECUTABLE)/rslgsend $(_SE)
Start_Program_03 = local $(_SE) pf=$(_PF) -F
#----
# Start internet graphics server
#----
IG = ig.sap$(SAPSYSTEMNAME)$(INSTANCE_NAME)
Execute_12 = local rm -f $(_IG)
Execute_13 = local ln -s -f $(DIR_EXECUTABLE)/igswd_mt $(_IG)
Start_Program_04 = local $(_IG) -mode=profile pf=$(_PF)
#----
# SAP Message Server parameters are set in the DEFAULT.PFL
#----
ms/server_port_0 = PROT=HTTP,PORT=81$$
rdisp/wp_no_enq = 1
enque/table_size = 32000
rdisp/wp_no_vb = 1
rdisp/wp_no_vb2 = 1
rdisp/wp_no_spo = 1
ipc/shm_psize_10 = 128000000
ipc/shm_psize_40 = 112000000
j2ee/instance_id = ID3013384
login/no_automatic_user_sapstar = 0
Your assistance is appreciated
Michael Teixeira
Hi Michael,
Does it take 10 minutes before you can log on to ABAP, or can you log on to ABAP but does it then take several minutes before you can log on to Java?
If the delay in on the ABAP side, then what behaviour do you see exactly when you try connecting from your SAPGUI:
- You get an error pop-up indicating that the instance is not available
- You get a logon screen but after entering your user ID and password, the session remains stuck (hourglass displayed) for a long time
During startup the following commands are most useful (I suppose you're on UNIX):
cd /usr/sap/IP1/DVEBMGS30/work
# For ABAP:
tail -f dev_disp
tail -f dev_w0
# For Java:
tail -f dev_server0
grep "state from" dev_server0
Regards,
Mark
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Hi Everyone,
Want to thank you for your reponses.
This issue was more related to the startup of the ABAP system but also impacted the Java side.
I changed the following parameters localhost values to the actual logical system name:
icm/HTTP/j2ee_0 = PREFIX=/,HOST=sapip1ci30,CONN=0-500,PORT=5$$00
icm/server_port_1 = PROT=P4,PORT=5$$04,HOST=sapip1ci30
And I added the following parameter:
icm/host_name_full = sapip1ci30.prasa.com
This reduced the overall start time to just under 5 minutes.
The ABAP still takes a while and wil continue to investigate it. For now I will set the message as answered.
Kind Regards and thank you for the input
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Hi,
If it is the Java Stack which takes 10 minutes to start then it is unfortunately "normal".
The java stack is very slow to start.
On my PI 7.0 system, the start duration of the abap stack is 30 seconds while the start duration of the java stack is more than 10 minutes...
If you are on windows and use an on-access antivirus, it slows java a lot....
Regards,
Olivier
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Hi ,
There could be many resaons for this issue.May be you can try couple of them as below::
1. Check if all the filesystem have sufficient space.
2. Ping your host & check if this is having long responce time if yes then this can be network issue.
3. May be you can have a look at archiver if its full?
4. Check your GUI version & update it to latest.
Finally check the responce time in ST03n which part is taking most time .
Thanks..
Mohit
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Hi Mohit,
I have checked all the file systems and we are currently at under 20% utilisation, netwrok response time is under 1ms, oraarch has about 70GB freespace and I'm running the latest version of SAP 7.10 GUI.
I just want to clarify that this is not a workstation related problem but more a server problem. The long response time is purely related to the duration it takes to start SAP. Once it is started we have avergae response time of around 280ms.
I'm busy downloading a newwer version of the kernel to see if that improves anything.
Do you have any other suggestions?
Kind Regards
Hi ,
Please check what are the process running or triggered when you start the SAP via MMC.
I guess some process utilising resources (CPU usage,PF usage & others)when you start SAP .Many times its observed that process other than related to SAP & your database get trigered & utilise non-required resources .
Finally check the logs dev_w0 & see if all is normal there.
Thanks..
Mohit
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